Can’t help but feel this thoughtful and comprehensive critique of negative utilitarianism is wasted on being buried deep in the comments of a basically unrelated post :)
Eh, I think a lot of this requires the context of previous replies, and I’m hesitant to signal boost a reply addressed to a not-that-great proponent of the view being critiqued. I might try and transfigure this into a more standalone piece when time permits, but probably not soon.
Except I never argued for Negative Utilitarianism. Misrepresenting the arguments I made as such is a complete strawman.
For example, I don’t believe there’s a moral reason to prevent people who want pain and consent to it, from having pain.
Neither do I believe that there’s a moral reason to prevent suffering for the guilty who have forced it on nonconsenting innocents. You, for example, have actively worked to cause it for a very large number of innocent nc victims, and therefore I do not believe there is a moral reason to prevent your suffering or victimization, even if it is nc.
It appears I was downvoted to −10 karma by people who didn’t even read my posts.
Can’t help but feel this thoughtful and comprehensive critique of negative utilitarianism is wasted on being buried deep in the comments of a basically unrelated post :)
Promote to its own article?
Eh, I think a lot of this requires the context of previous replies, and I’m hesitant to signal boost a reply addressed to a not-that-great proponent of the view being critiqued. I might try and transfigure this into a more standalone piece when time permits, but probably not soon.
Generating the perception of ‘debate’ over fringe topics tends to increase the popularity of small minority viewpoints, besides.
+1 to this, making substantive comments easily findable is really valuable.
Except I never argued for Negative Utilitarianism. Misrepresenting the arguments I made as such is a complete strawman.
For example, I don’t believe there’s a moral reason to prevent people who want pain and consent to it, from having pain.
Neither do I believe that there’s a moral reason to prevent suffering for the guilty who have forced it on nonconsenting innocents. You, for example, have actively worked to cause it for a very large number of innocent nc victims, and therefore I do not believe there is a moral reason to prevent your suffering or victimization, even if it is nc.
It appears I was downvoted to −10 karma by people who didn’t even read my posts.