As an outsider to these orgs, there’s not a lot I can do here, except strongly advocate for people to take abuse seriously and not look the other way when it happens. I certainly hope it’s not the case that people are looking the other way, but people will always find it tempting to rationalise doing nothing when they thinks their career (or in this case, the fate of the world) is at stake, so I want to be as clear as humanly possible that the results of doing so could be disastrous.
I think in your shoes I probably would have sent on more information about the high profile EA accusation, but I recognize you’re in a tough position here (and I’m also not as familiar with the relevant laws and stuff as you are). Hoping you’re doing okay, and that any wrongdoing gets exposed as soon as possible.
May I ask why I should share information with CEA? CEA has made it clear that they find it unproductive to speak with me, and do not feel that my work is of value? If they’ve said it’s unproductive to speak to me—and when I shared that information, they had already not been responding when I wanted to other information—then wouldn’t I be crossing boundaries by continuing to push contact w/them?
On this forum, I was doxxed, and the mods didn’t remove the doxxing posts for 3 days. I had to resubmit requests for doxxing posts to be removed multiple times. I’ve been called “scary”—which was upvoted—and my posts, even when thoughtful—are continuously downvoted. CEA said I’m a liar and more.
Do you have an alternate plan for how to get these accusations investigated? My thinking is that giving info to the community health team is at least worth a shot. If there’s even a small chance of ejecting an abuser from a position of power and influence, isn’t that worth it?
Again, I’m not an expert in this matter, I’m just upset and don’t want to see awful people continue to gain power.
I’m just upset and don’t want to see awful people continue to gain power
The people who put those rapists in power and keep them there are the ones to be upset at. If people didn’t support serial rapists, they wouldn’t feel empowered to keep raping.
Do you have an alternate plan for how to get these accusations investigated? My thinking is that giving info to the community health team is at least worth a shot. If there’s even a small chance of ejecting an abuser from a position of power and influence, isn’t that worth it?
This isn’t a question for me, it’s a question for community health and CEA. The ball is in their court—it’s up to them to investigate.
The “alternate plan” you speak of is something I’d charge for. It would be weeks of work, and CEA made it clear they’d not pay me. Also, lawyers charge tens of thousands of dollars for investigations with orgs; it’s unrealistic that I should do them for free.
As well—on top of not being paid, I will not accept CEA’s actions potentially costing me money I can’t spare, can’t accept them being emotionally abusive to me, being called a liar—defamation, slander—but most of all, I can’t accept how many upset survivors I’ve spoken to that feel harmed by this movement that’s willing to accept “some rape as long as its’ not more than the average”.
As an outsider to these orgs, there’s not a lot I can do here, except strongly advocate for people to take abuse seriously and not look the other way when it happens. I certainly hope it’s not the case that people are looking the other way, but people will always find it tempting to rationalise doing nothing when they thinks their career (or in this case, the fate of the world) is at stake, so I want to be as clear as humanly possible that the results of doing so could be disastrous.
I think in your shoes I probably would have sent on more information about the high profile EA accusation, but I recognize you’re in a tough position here (and I’m also not as familiar with the relevant laws and stuff as you are). Hoping you’re doing okay, and that any wrongdoing gets exposed as soon as possible.
May I ask why I should share information with CEA? CEA has made it clear that they find it unproductive to speak with me, and do not feel that my work is of value? If they’ve said it’s unproductive to speak to me—and when I shared that information, they had already not been responding when I wanted to other information—then wouldn’t I be crossing boundaries by continuing to push contact w/them?
On this forum, I was doxxed, and the mods didn’t remove the doxxing posts for 3 days. I had to resubmit requests for doxxing posts to be removed multiple times. I’ve been called “scary”—which was upvoted—and my posts, even when thoughtful—are continuously downvoted. CEA said I’m a liar and more.
Do you have an alternate plan for how to get these accusations investigated? My thinking is that giving info to the community health team is at least worth a shot. If there’s even a small chance of ejecting an abuser from a position of power and influence, isn’t that worth it?
Again, I’m not an expert in this matter, I’m just upset and don’t want to see awful people continue to gain power.
The people who put those rapists in power and keep them there are the ones to be upset at. If people didn’t support serial rapists, they wouldn’t feel empowered to keep raping.
This isn’t a question for me, it’s a question for community health and CEA. The ball is in their court—it’s up to them to investigate.
The “alternate plan” you speak of is something I’d charge for. It would be weeks of work, and CEA made it clear they’d not pay me. Also, lawyers charge tens of thousands of dollars for investigations with orgs; it’s unrealistic that I should do them for free.
As well—on top of not being paid, I will not accept CEA’s actions potentially costing me money I can’t spare, can’t accept them being emotionally abusive to me, being called a liar—defamation, slander—but most of all, I can’t accept how many upset survivors I’ve spoken to that feel harmed by this movement that’s willing to accept “some rape as long as its’ not more than the average”.