Thanks for the response, it helps me understand where you’re coming from.
I agree that the sentence you cite could be better written (and in general ACE could improve, as could we all). I disagree with this though:
However something like this is handled is also how a bad actor would be handled, because a bad actor would be indistinguishable from this; if we let this by without criticism and reform, then bad actors would also be let by without criticism and reform.
At the object level: ACE is distinguishable from a bad actor, for example due to the fact that their most prominent pages do not recommend charities which focus on leafleting.
At the metalevel: I don’t think we should have a conversational norm of “everyone should be treated as a bad actor until they can prove otherwise”. It would be really awful to be a member of a community with that norm.
All this being said, it seems that ACE is responding in this post now, and it may be better to let them address concerns since they are both more knowledgeable and more articulate than me.
Thanks for the response, it helps me understand where you’re coming from.
I agree that the sentence you cite could be better written (and in general ACE could improve, as could we all). I disagree with this though:
At the object level: ACE is distinguishable from a bad actor, for example due to the fact that their most prominent pages do not recommend charities which focus on leafleting.
At the metalevel: I don’t think we should have a conversational norm of “everyone should be treated as a bad actor until they can prove otherwise”. It would be really awful to be a member of a community with that norm.
All this being said, it seems that ACE is responding in this post now, and it may be better to let them address concerns since they are both more knowledgeable and more articulate than me.