So, I’m not that familiar with this legislation, but I think the (key) purpose behind the banning of factory farms, would be a major political, legislative win that has a strategic value.
But the comment’s main arguments are:
Factory farming is minimal in Switzerland, so this legislation doesn’t do much
There are big negative consequences to this legislation banning of farms (price increases, food security).
Don’t these two points conflict with each other? Also, neither undermines the main purpose of the legislation mentioned above.
Other comments:
I’m confused what “ivory tower” and “consequentialism” add here—I’m sure EA has a big consequentialist streak, but I’m not sure how relevant that is to reducing torture on factory farms, or reduce huge mortality from diseases like malaria.
Similarly, whether I agree or don’t agree with unfairness or not, I’m unsure what “moral axes in human psychology according to Haidt’s moral foundations theory” adds.
RE: Regressiveness, I think it’s possible to model price increases due to policy changes, and I would expect to see numbers if this was significant.
Dealing with regressiveness, pigovian taxes, and progressive taxes have been a thing for a long time, and seem to be tools we can use.
“claims like 99% of meat being factory farmed”, but I can’t find this claim on this post or on the website. Where did you get this and what was the context it was used in?
I’m skeptical/confused by this comment.
So, I’m not that familiar with this legislation, but I think the (key) purpose behind the banning of factory farms, would be a major political, legislative win that has a strategic value.
But the comment’s main arguments are:
Factory farming is minimal in Switzerland, so this legislation doesn’t do much
There are big negative consequences to this legislation banning of farms (price increases, food security).
Don’t these two points conflict with each other? Also, neither undermines the main purpose of the legislation mentioned above.
Other comments:
I’m confused what “ivory tower” and “consequentialism” add here—I’m sure EA has a big consequentialist streak, but I’m not sure how relevant that is to reducing torture on factory farms, or reduce huge mortality from diseases like malaria.
Similarly, whether I agree or don’t agree with unfairness or not, I’m unsure what “moral axes in human psychology according to Haidt’s moral foundations theory” adds.
RE: Regressiveness, I think it’s possible to model price increases due to policy changes, and I would expect to see numbers if this was significant.
Dealing with regressiveness, pigovian taxes, and progressive taxes have been a thing for a long time, and seem to be tools we can use.
“claims like 99% of meat being factory farmed”, but I can’t find this claim on this post or on the website. Where did you get this and what was the context it was used in?