I’d also worry, though, about the application having only certain kinds of questions which do not bring out the best in (some/many) people. I’ve definitely seen some applications where I thought I wasn’t given the chance to show my worth, and others where I was. This app would have to be drafted with a lot of care.
Likely a reason this hasn’t been done yet (and why we aren’t saying 100% we’ll do this)--it’s very difficult to create a “good” application and process, nonetheless create one that multiple orgs would all find valuable and be able to fit into their workflows. I’m happy to listen to any feedback/input you may have on applications that you thought allowed you to present yourself best.
Yes, I think we would benefit from having organizations run the pre-app and standard app in parallel for one cycle (while compensating applicants for the additional work on the margin!). We’d be looking for a pre-app “score” for each organization at which very few people whose application would have survived the first round of the old process would be eliminated by the pre-app and/or ~no one who was ultimately accepted was screened out.
This would definitely reduce the time cost.
I’d also worry, though, about the application having only certain kinds of questions which do not bring out the best in (some/many) people. I’ve definitely seen some applications where I thought I wasn’t given the chance to show my worth, and others where I was. This app would have to be drafted with a lot of care.
Also thank you @elizabethcooper for taking initiative on this!
Likely a reason this hasn’t been done yet (and why we aren’t saying 100% we’ll do this)--it’s very difficult to create a “good” application and process, nonetheless create one that multiple orgs would all find valuable and be able to fit into their workflows. I’m happy to listen to any feedback/input you may have on applications that you thought allowed you to present yourself best.
Yes, I think we would benefit from having organizations run the pre-app and standard app in parallel for one cycle (while compensating applicants for the additional work on the margin!). We’d be looking for a pre-app “score” for each organization at which very few people whose application would have survived the first round of the old process would be eliminated by the pre-app and/or ~no one who was ultimately accepted was screened out.