Would it be possible to pass some of the data to the EA Forum thing, perhaps with a simple permission tick box? I? This could help kickstart things a lot building network externalities.
This also seems like a good precedent To me. People will be more likely to participate in these data gathering survey things in the future if they think that if the initiative is retired there is the opportunity to re-purpose it for its successor.
We did consider this but decided against it for several reasons - We felt the only right way to do this would have been for it to be opt-in, i.e., that users would have to actively agree to this. We assumed that very few users would have done this and that the effort would have not been worth it. - We raised this option with the Forum team in 2023 when discussing a possible handover and they felt similarly - The vast majority of the profiles will be quite outdated by now (the % of users returning to the Hub to update their profile was quite low), so the quality of the data would also not have been great.
In the email we’re sending to users we encourage them though to use the Forum’s Profile Directory, so we hope that those users who are on the Hub, but not the Forum, will migrate their (I believe this will be a rather small subset of those Hub users who are still actively involved in EA).
I understand the logic, but I think there could be some workarounds that make this doable. If you can put a “last updated “ on profile people can judge for themselves whether the information is rusty.* I would worry a bit that not doing this makes people think “why should I fill in my information on this next thing when I’m just gonna have to do so again when they switch it up next time?
*by the way voice recognition replaced “trustworthy“ with “rusty“ but actually it works as well. :-)
As communicated here and to users via email, all data will be deleted after the website goes down, so this is not an option.
However, regarding your use case (finding lawyers/accountants), I have tried using— free text search on the profiles directory: seems not to work so well and something that could be improved. - the role filter feature. That seems like it might be useful to you!
Would it be possible to pass some of the data to the EA Forum thing, perhaps with a simple permission tick box? I? This could help kickstart things a lot building network externalities.
This also seems like a good precedent To me. People will be more likely to participate in these data gathering survey things in the future if they think that if the initiative is retired there is the opportunity to re-purpose it for its successor.
We did consider this but decided against it for several reasons
- We felt the only right way to do this would have been for it to be opt-in, i.e., that users would have to actively agree to this. We assumed that very few users would have done this and that the effort would have not been worth it.
- We raised this option with the Forum team in 2023 when discussing a possible handover and they felt similarly
- The vast majority of the profiles will be quite outdated by now (the % of users returning to the Hub to update their profile was quite low), so the quality of the data would also not have been great.
In the email we’re sending to users we encourage them though to use the Forum’s Profile Directory, so we hope that those users who are on the Hub, but not the Forum, will migrate their (I believe this will be a rather small subset of those Hub users who are still actively involved in EA).
I understand the logic, but I think there could be some workarounds that make this doable. If you can put a “last updated “ on profile people can judge for themselves whether the information is rusty.* I would worry a bit that not doing this makes people think “why should I fill in my information on this next thing when I’m just gonna have to do so again when they switch it up next time?
*by the way voice recognition replaced “trustworthy“ with “rusty“ but actually it works as well. :-)
You’re of course right, there would be some advantages to doing it. It comes down to whether it’s worth the time, and we concluded it is probably not.
That’s fair. But maybe hold onto the previous database if possible, in case the signup for this one is low and it needs a kickstart?
As communicated here and to users via email, all data will be deleted after the website goes down, so this is not an option.
However, regarding your use case (finding lawyers/accountants), I have tried using—
free text search on the profiles directory: seems not to work so well and something that could be improved.
- the role filter feature. That seems like it might be useful to you!
Eg I was looking for EA/earning to give lawyers and accountants to hire and had trouble finding them
Dunno if it’s still helpful, but https://www.highimpactprofessionals.org/talent-directory is a directory of EAs looking for work and contained several each of lawyers and accountants on a quick search.
Did you find them? Perhaps they should be added to the periodic EA Advertisements post?
Helpful but to disambiguat, that is a directory of professionals who want to do impactful work.
I am also looking to favour “earning to give” professionals willing to do non-impactful work.
Ala my “corporate bake sale” post and @Brad West Introducing the Profit for Good Blog: Transforming Business for Charity
I was referring to this post, which I think includes services for those who are earning to give?