I would argue that EA jobs donāt pay well at all for the level of work they expect, and that they all have a substantial sacrifice premium as compared to other jobs. Also EA job hunting is awful, the work is quite horrendously insecure, and I definitely wouldnāt recommend EA as a kind of way to get ahead in life. I consider the overmarketing of this to ambitious young idealists to be one of EAās worst failures.
I would agree that I view EA as a great opportunity, and by such sacrifice we achieve a somewhat spiritual process of transformative self-actualisation. But I donāt think someone else should have to, particularly not a someone else that is struggling in a more marginalised space. And itās my experience that they generally donāt.
Legitimately, if you have any āyou should join up with EAā argument that works on a marginalised person that isnāt just lying by pretending thereās more in it for them than there actually is, please let me know because Iād like to use it.
EA jobs pay great if youāre from the global southāand yet!
(This discussion seems to be anchoring on diversity as itās practiced in wealthy economies, which I donāt think necessarily has to be the main way of making EA diverse)
Even if you think that involvement in EA is mostly a matter of altruistic self-sacrifice (which I think is an oversimplification), it can still be true that there are women, people of colour, LGBTQ people, or people from other marginalized groups who want to make that altruistic self-sacrifice. Should they have the autonomy, the right to make that decision? I think so.
If people from these groups say that the barriers to their involvement in EA is not the amount of self-sacrifice involved, but other factors like perceived unwelcomingness toward people of their demographic, not seeing other people like them represented in EA, or a lack of trust or a sense of safety (e.g. around sexual harassment or instances of discrimination or prejudice, or the communityās response to it) ā or other things of that nature ā then that is a moral failing on the part of EA, and not noblesse oblige.
I would argue that EA jobs donāt pay well at all for the level of work they expect, and that they all have a substantial sacrifice premium as compared to other jobs. Also EA job hunting is awful, the work is quite horrendously insecure, and I definitely wouldnāt recommend EA as a kind of way to get ahead in life. I consider the overmarketing of this to ambitious young idealists to be one of EAās worst failures.
I would agree that I view EA as a great opportunity, and by such sacrifice we achieve a somewhat spiritual process of transformative self-actualisation. But I donāt think someone else should have to, particularly not a someone else that is struggling in a more marginalised space. And itās my experience that they generally donāt.
Legitimately, if you have any āyou should join up with EAā argument that works on a marginalised person that isnāt just lying by pretending thereās more in it for them than there actually is, please let me know because Iād like to use it.
EA jobs pay great if youāre from the global southāand yet!
(This discussion seems to be anchoring on diversity as itās practiced in wealthy economies, which I donāt think necessarily has to be the main way of making EA diverse)
Even if you think that involvement in EA is mostly a matter of altruistic self-sacrifice (which I think is an oversimplification), it can still be true that there are women, people of colour, LGBTQ people, or people from other marginalized groups who want to make that altruistic self-sacrifice. Should they have the autonomy, the right to make that decision? I think so.
If people from these groups say that the barriers to their involvement in EA is not the amount of self-sacrifice involved, but other factors like perceived unwelcomingness toward people of their demographic, not seeing other people like them represented in EA, or a lack of trust or a sense of safety (e.g. around sexual harassment or instances of discrimination or prejudice, or the communityās response to it) ā or other things of that nature ā then that is a moral failing on the part of EA, and not noblesse oblige.
I agree with you that improving intracommunity experience is important.