Identifying this is a start, but it remains unclear to me that this post is likely to result in any action that will change anything (realizing some people may disagree that this is the experience of some people in the community or that their experience of alienation matters). But supposing you agree that this post describes a real problem and the problem deserves solving, what are things we might do as a community to be more inclusive?
I’m thinking here of asking for specific, actionable ideas and not just generic stuff like “spread awareness”, and additionally these need to be actions that will be carried about by the people who care about this to make the community different than it is today and not demands for people who are in the alienator group to change because that’s also unlikely to be an effective strategy. I imagine most actions that would work well would be of the form “I want EA to be more inclusive, and to make it that way I’m going to do X”. What is X?
The post answers that question—don’t say the inflammatory things listed, or if you must, follow the steps listed first. (Note: Explanation, not necessarily endorsement.)
This seems to miss the point of my question, because it already seems to be the case that the people who could do something already don’t much engage in these discussions. Rather it’s primarily the folks who are causing the feelings of alienation and do not themselves feel alienated that are starting and engaging in discussions that cause feelings of alienation for others, and presuming they do so because they either do not consider their actions to be contrary to the purpose of inclusiveness or because they do not value inclusiveness, what actions can those who are alienated or value inclusiveness take that would address this issue. That is, if you feel there are things being done and said that cause alienation, how do you get that to stop other than just hoping that other people decide on their own not to do it anymore?
Identifying this is a start, but it remains unclear to me that this post is likely to result in any action that will change anything (realizing some people may disagree that this is the experience of some people in the community or that their experience of alienation matters). But supposing you agree that this post describes a real problem and the problem deserves solving, what are things we might do as a community to be more inclusive?
I’m thinking here of asking for specific, actionable ideas and not just generic stuff like “spread awareness”, and additionally these need to be actions that will be carried about by the people who care about this to make the community different than it is today and not demands for people who are in the alienator group to change because that’s also unlikely to be an effective strategy. I imagine most actions that would work well would be of the form “I want EA to be more inclusive, and to make it that way I’m going to do X”. What is X?
The post answers that question—don’t say the inflammatory things listed, or if you must, follow the steps listed first. (Note: Explanation, not necessarily endorsement.)
This seems to miss the point of my question, because it already seems to be the case that the people who could do something already don’t much engage in these discussions. Rather it’s primarily the folks who are causing the feelings of alienation and do not themselves feel alienated that are starting and engaging in discussions that cause feelings of alienation for others, and presuming they do so because they either do not consider their actions to be contrary to the purpose of inclusiveness or because they do not value inclusiveness, what actions can those who are alienated or value inclusiveness take that would address this issue. That is, if you feel there are things being done and said that cause alienation, how do you get that to stop other than just hoping that other people decide on their own not to do it anymore?