Right, I was going to mention the fact that AIS concerned people are very interested in courting the ML community, and very averse to anything which might alienate them, but it’s already come up.
I’m not sure I agree with this strategy. I think we should maybe be more “good cop / bad cop” about it. I think the response so far from ML people is almost indefensible, and the AIS folks have won every debate so far, but there is of course this phenomena with debate where you think that your side won ;).
If it ends up being necessary to slow down research, or, more generally, carefully control AI technology in some way, then we might have genuine conflicts of interest with AI researchers which can’t be resolved solely by good cop tactics. This might be the case if, e.g. using SOTA AIS techniques significantly impairs performance or research, which I think it likely.
It’s still a huge instrumental good to get more ML people into AIS and supportive of it, but I don’t like to see AIS people bending over backwards to do this.
Right, I was going to mention the fact that AIS concerned people are very interested in courting the ML community, and very averse to anything which might alienate them, but it’s already come up.
I’m not sure I agree with this strategy. I think we should maybe be more “good cop / bad cop” about it. I think the response so far from ML people is almost indefensible, and the AIS folks have won every debate so far, but there is of course this phenomena with debate where you think that your side won ;).
If it ends up being necessary to slow down research, or, more generally, carefully control AI technology in some way, then we might have genuine conflicts of interest with AI researchers which can’t be resolved solely by good cop tactics. This might be the case if, e.g. using SOTA AIS techniques significantly impairs performance or research, which I think it likely.
It’s still a huge instrumental good to get more ML people into AIS and supportive of it, but I don’t like to see AIS people bending over backwards to do this.