Neither had been announced, only uncovered in press reports, after which EA leaders came out to assert that they were going to announce them later on (detail in the threads above).
These are very real achievements made by Effective Altruists this year. The planning, time and monetary investment alone are impressive. As such, they should be put forward alongside others.
For the people downvoting/disagreeing with this comment:
Do you think these weren’t achievements, per se? Why not?
Do you disagree that they should be listed as achievements, and as such are inappropriate for this list? If so, under what conditions if any should community-building efforts be counted as EA achievements?
Do you disagree with the characterization of them as “stately homes”? That’s a fair terminological disagreement, and I would agree that’s misleading terminology as they’re not intended to be permanent living quarters (AFAIK). Given the possibility of other explanations, however, clarification would be appreciated rather than or at least in addition to the silent downvote.
From my perspective, I was looking to celebrate all the fantastic work being done to help the worlds most vulnerable beings. The billions of factory farmed animals. The millions of people living in extreme poverty. I wanted to celebrate all the people thinking compassionately about other people, and taking sacrifices, with their own income, or their life’s work, to help others.
So, I would have a preferred an alternative universe where negativity was not posted here, in this specific thread. Feel free to discuss the issue on the many forum posts around that topic.
On one hand, I think that’s a lovely and important sentiment. This community does get bogged down in certain kinds of criticism and theorizing, and likewise can miss out on recognizing the good achieved.
On the other, ignoring “controversial achievements” is… well. A rather slippery concept; what’s controversial to one might be great to another.
Thank you being willing to respond with actual words and not just voting.
In 2022 two substantial stately homes were bought.
Wytham Abbey (built 1480) - bought in July 2022 for £15m (~€18m). Justification for purchase here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey
Hostačov Chateau (founded 1297) - bought in late 2022 for ~€4m directly with FTX money. Justification for purchase lower down same thread: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=KWnqd6Hw5BdEbeKD3&view=postCommentsNew&postId=xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG#uwPswQEgHfiHPpJv8
Neither had been announced, only uncovered in press reports, after which EA leaders came out to assert that they were going to announce them later on (detail in the threads above).
These are very real achievements made by Effective Altruists this year. The planning, time and monetary investment alone are impressive. As such, they should be put forward alongside others.
For the people downvoting/disagreeing with this comment:
Do you think these weren’t achievements, per se? Why not?
Do you disagree that they should be listed as achievements, and as such are inappropriate for this list? If so, under what conditions if any should community-building efforts be counted as EA achievements?
Do you disagree with the characterization of them as “stately homes”? That’s a fair terminological disagreement, and I would agree that’s misleading terminology as they’re not intended to be permanent living quarters (AFAIK). Given the possibility of other explanations, however, clarification would be appreciated rather than or at least in addition to the silent downvote.
From my perspective, I was looking to celebrate all the fantastic work being done to help the worlds most vulnerable beings. The billions of factory farmed animals. The millions of people living in extreme poverty. I wanted to celebrate all the people thinking compassionately about other people, and taking sacrifices, with their own income, or their life’s work, to help others.
So, I would have a preferred an alternative universe where negativity was not posted here, in this specific thread. Feel free to discuss the issue on the many forum posts around that topic.
On one hand, I think that’s a lovely and important sentiment. This community does get bogged down in certain kinds of criticism and theorizing, and likewise can miss out on recognizing the good achieved.
On the other, ignoring “controversial achievements” is… well. A rather slippery concept; what’s controversial to one might be great to another.
Thank you being willing to respond with actual words and not just voting.