hmm not sure it’s fair to make claims about what “consensus EA” believes based on the donation election honestly
“consensus EA” seems like it is likely to be something other than “people who are on the Forum between Nov 18 and Dec 3″
I only pay attention to climate, but as a cause area it tends to be more prominent in “EA-wide” surveys/giving than it is among the most highly-engaged EAs (Forum readers)[1]
people are literally voting based on what OP is not funding
people are literally voting based on what OP is not funding
Given that Aaron’s point was about “marginal dollars,” this doesn’t strike me as a major reason against it. RP is currently #1. EA Animal Welfare Fund is currently #2, and I don’t think it the kinds of work it funds are necessarily things OP won’t fund.
I didn’t even vote for GG bc I know it won’t win, but it does warm my cold dead heart that four whole people did
You should vote for your honest preference for data-gathering purposes (and because it’s epistemically good for your cold dead heart!). Under the IRV system, your vote will be transferred to your next-highest-ranked charity once GG is eliminated, so it is not a “wasted vote” by any means.
RP is currently #1. EA Animal Welfare Fund is currently #2, and I don’t think it the kinds of work it funds are necessarily things OP won’t fund.
I think this is only partially true. Since RP gets significant funding from OP, my understanding based on their communications is that they tend to often use unrestricted funding specifically in areas that can’t get funding for from OP. And similarly, AWF has specifically highlighted funding areas that OP won’t as one of their top areas.
hahaha no I know, more seriously I just don’t want to vote for a marginal funding post that I wrote! feels like it’s not the point of the endeavor, I’d rather support other orgs in the community in a small way~
I think those are both good points. In my experience, different subsets of EA can vary a lot in terms of cause prioritization. Though I’m guessing that Aaron means something slightly different than you do when he says “consensus EA”.
hi sarah! yeah i think that’s true as well. i think in my head it was already obvious and therefore not realization-worthy that engaged EAs believe AW is underfunded, but i also probably talk to people with this belief disproportionately often due to the climate/AW funding overlap bc i am learning elsewhere on the internet that people think this is weird
hmm not sure it’s fair to make claims about what “consensus EA” believes based on the donation election honestly
“consensus EA” seems like it is likely to be something other than “people who are on the Forum between Nov 18 and Dec 3″
I only pay attention to climate, but as a cause area it tends to be more prominent in “EA-wide” surveys/giving than it is among the most highly-engaged EAs (Forum readers)[1]
people are literally voting based on what OP is not funding
I didn’t even vote for GG bc I know it won’t win, but it does warm my cold dead heart that four whole people did
Given that Aaron’s point was about “marginal dollars,” this doesn’t strike me as a major reason against it. RP is currently #1. EA Animal Welfare Fund is currently #2, and I don’t think it the kinds of work it funds are necessarily things OP won’t fund.
You should vote for your honest preference for data-gathering purposes (and because it’s epistemically good for your cold dead heart!). Under the IRV system, your vote will be transferred to your next-highest-ranked charity once GG is eliminated, so it is not a “wasted vote” by any means.
I think this is only partially true. Since RP gets significant funding from OP, my understanding based on their communications is that they tend to often use unrestricted funding specifically in areas that can’t get funding for from OP. And similarly, AWF has specifically highlighted funding areas that OP won’t as one of their top areas.
hahaha no I know, more seriously I just don’t want to vote for a marginal funding post that I wrote! feels like it’s not the point of the endeavor, I’d rather support other orgs in the community in a small way~
I think those are both good points. In my experience, different subsets of EA can vary a lot in terms of cause prioritization. Though I’m guessing that Aaron means something slightly different than you do when he says “consensus EA”.
hi sarah! yeah i think that’s true as well. i think in my head it was already obvious and therefore not realization-worthy that engaged EAs believe AW is underfunded, but i also probably talk to people with this belief disproportionately often due to the climate/AW funding overlap bc i am learning elsewhere on the internet that people think this is weird