I still feel like you’re misunderstanding my position but I don’t know how to explain it any differently than I already have, so I’ll just address some things I haven’t talked about yet.
A lot of what you’re talking about here is how I should change my beliefs when other smart people have different beliefs from me, which is a really complex question that I don’t know how to answer in a way that makes sense. I get the impression that you think I should put more weight on the fact that some MIRI researchers don’t think animals are important for the far future; and I don’t think I should do that.
I already agree that wild animals probably won’t exist in the far future, assuming humans survive. I also generally agree with Nate’s beliefs on non-human animals and I expect that he does a good job of considering their interests when he makes decisions. And my current best guess is that MIRI is the strongest object-level charity in the world. I don’t think I disagree with MIRI as much as you think I do.
Edited to add: I have seen evidence that Nate is asking questions like, “What makes a being conscious?” “How do we ensure that an AI makes all these beings well off and not just humans?” AI safety researchers need to be asking these questions.
I still feel like you’re misunderstanding my position but I don’t know how to explain it any differently than I already have, so I’ll just address some things I haven’t talked about yet.
A lot of what you’re talking about here is how I should change my beliefs when other smart people have different beliefs from me, which is a really complex question that I don’t know how to answer in a way that makes sense. I get the impression that you think I should put more weight on the fact that some MIRI researchers don’t think animals are important for the far future; and I don’t think I should do that.
I already agree that wild animals probably won’t exist in the far future, assuming humans survive. I also generally agree with Nate’s beliefs on non-human animals and I expect that he does a good job of considering their interests when he makes decisions. And my current best guess is that MIRI is the strongest object-level charity in the world. I don’t think I disagree with MIRI as much as you think I do.
Edited to add: I have seen evidence that Nate is asking questions like, “What makes a being conscious?” “How do we ensure that an AI makes all these beings well off and not just humans?” AI safety researchers need to be asking these questions.