I was honestly surprised how quickly SBF was “platformed” by EA (but not actually surprised, he was a billionaire shoveling money in EA’s direction). One day I looked up and he was everywhere. On every podcast I follow, fellow EAs quoting him, one EA told me how much they wanted to meet his brother… it felt unearned/uncanny. For me, a main takeaway is that the community should be more cautious about the partners that it aligns with and also create a more resilient infrastructure to mitigate blowback when this stuff happens (it’ll happen again, it always does with wealthy donors). When the major consultancies recently started getting flack for unsavory clients, they spun up teams to assess the ethical aspect of contracts and started turning down business that didn’t align with certain standards.
FYI I’m not a “de-platforming” person, just felt like SBF immediately became a highly visible EA figure for no good reason beyond $$$.
It was his fellow Thetans who introduced SBF to EA and then to MacAskill, who was, at that point, still virtually unknown. MacAskill was visiting MIT in search of volunteers willing to sign on to his earn-to-give program. At a café table in Cambridge, Massachusetts, MacAskill laid out his idea as if it were a business plan: a strategic investment with a return measured in human lives. The opportunity was big, MacAskill argued, because, in the developing world, life was still unconscionably cheap. Just do the math: At $2,000 per life, a million dollars could save 500 people, a billion could save half a million, and, by extension, a trillion could theoretically save half a billion humans from a miserable death.
MacAskill couldn’t have hoped for a better recruit. Not only was SBF raised in the Bay Area as a utilitarian, but he’d already been inspired by Peter Singer to take moral action. During his freshman year, SBF went vegan and organized a campaign against factory farming. As a junior, he was wondering what to do with his life. And MacAskill—Singer’s philosophical heir—had the answer: The best way for him to maximize good in the world would be to maximize his wealth.
SBF listened, nodding, as MacAskill made his pitch. The earn-to-give logic was airtight. It was, SBF realized, applied utilitarianism. Knowing what he had to do, SBF simply said, “Yep. That makes sense.” But, right there, between a bright yellow sunshade and the crumb-strewn red-brick floor, SBF’s purpose in life was set: He was going to get filthy rich, for charity’s sake. All the rest was merely execution risk.
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it! SBF has clearly been interested in EA for a long time, but taking him seriously as a thought leader is pretty new. @donychristie mentioned that he was an early poster child of earning-to-give, which I also vaguely remember, but his elevation in status is a recent phenomenon.
Regardless, my main point is that EA should be sensitive to the reputation of its funders. Stuff like this feels off even if it may come from a well-intentioned place.
I think the main early poster child was Jason Trigg, with the Join Wall Street Save the World (2013). I responded to Dony below, but I don’t think Sam was prominent on 80k in the 2014-2016 era?
He was platformed prominently on the 80K website in like 2014-2016 ( my memory’s hazy) for working at Jane Street. He was the poster child of earning-to-give.
I was honestly surprised how quickly SBF was “platformed” by EA (but not actually surprised, he was a billionaire shoveling money in EA’s direction). One day I looked up and he was everywhere. On every podcast I follow, fellow EAs quoting him, one EA told me how much they wanted to meet his brother… it felt unearned/uncanny. For me, a main takeaway is that the community should be more cautious about the partners that it aligns with and also create a more resilient infrastructure to mitigate blowback when this stuff happens (it’ll happen again, it always does with wealthy donors). When the major consultancies recently started getting flack for unsavory clients, they spun up teams to assess the ethical aspect of contracts and started turning down business that didn’t align with certain standards.
FYI I’m not a “de-platforming” person, just felt like SBF immediately became a highly visible EA figure for no good reason beyond $$$.
Not exactly. From Sam Bankman-Fried Has a Savior Complex—And Maybe You Should Too:
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it! SBF has clearly been interested in EA for a long time, but taking him seriously as a thought leader is pretty new. @donychristie mentioned that he was an early poster child of earning-to-give, which I also vaguely remember, but his elevation in status is a recent phenomenon.
Regardless, my main point is that EA should be sensitive to the reputation of its funders. Stuff like this feels off even if it may come from a well-intentioned place.
I think the main early poster child was Jason Trigg, with the Join Wall Street Save the World (2013). I responded to Dony below, but I don’t think Sam was prominent on 80k in the 2014-2016 era?
He was platformed prominently on the 80K website in like 2014-2016 ( my memory’s hazy) for working at Jane Street. He was the poster child of earning-to-give.
I don’t remember him on 80k then, and looking at the Internet Archive he seems to have been added to the page on earning to give in May or June 2021:
2015-07-22 no
2017-04-23 no
2019-04-28 no
2020-07-30 no
2021-01-26 no
2021-04-06 no
2021-05-16 no
2021-06-07 yes
2021-06-18 yes
2021-08-09 yes
Here he is right on the homepage, 2015, the only earn-to-give profile of the three highlighted, and it links to his profile, “last updated October 25th, 2014”.
Thanks for finding that! I was looking in the wrong place. I wish there was some kind of search for the archive...
Agreed. Its entirely possible to take someone’s money and spend it for good causes without promoting them and associating ones reputation with them