Apologies for all the confusion hereâin terms of the idea Iâm presenting in the post I think Vasco has done a really great job of summarising the idea above.
But I think the conversation above has helped me recognise a distinction that I donât think Iâd articulated particularly well in my post, which is that I see a difference between the application of credits for contexts like shrimp stunning, and the wider application of credits for animal welfare more broadly:
As a transition tool(as in shrimp stunning credits) - In the case of offsetting âbadâ practices, credits arenât intended to be very valuable, just a way to unblock logistical issues of transitioning a supply chain. Ultimately we want a situation where no-one is buying stunning credits because theyâve all directly transitioned their supply chains. (Again, I think Vasco actually does a great job of outlining my sense of how this would work without increasing shrimp production in his comment below).
As a tool to put a price on positive welfare (similar to Paul Christianoâs Demand Offsetting proposalâthanks @Austin! I hadnât read this article before) - In cases of trying to optimise for âgoodâ practices (where an improvement could lead to net positive lives for farmed animals), I wanted to paint a picture of a world where credits could be used to create lasting mechanisms that financially incentivise these welfare improvements.
Also, Iâve just realised that Iâve referenced @Vasco Grilođ¸âs comments a few times in this reply to help clarify my thinkingâjust wanted to say that I really appreciate your help in articulating the points I wanted to make!
Also, Iâve just realised that Iâve referenced @Vasco Grilođ¸âs comments a few times in this reply to help clarify my thinkingâjust wanted to say that I really appreciate your help in articulating the points I wanted to make!
Hi Angelina, Austin, and Vasco :)
Apologies for all the confusion hereâin terms of the idea Iâm presenting in the post I think Vasco has done a really great job of summarising the idea above.
But I think the conversation above has helped me recognise a distinction that I donât think Iâd articulated particularly well in my post, which is that I see a difference between the application of credits for contexts like shrimp stunning, and the wider application of credits for animal welfare more broadly:
As a transition tool (as in shrimp stunning credits) - In the case of offsetting âbadâ practices, credits arenât intended to be very valuable, just a way to unblock logistical issues of transitioning a supply chain. Ultimately we want a situation where no-one is buying stunning credits because theyâve all directly transitioned their supply chains. (Again, I think Vasco actually does a great job of outlining my sense of how this would work without increasing shrimp production in his comment below).
As a tool to put a price on positive welfare (similar to Paul Christianoâs Demand Offsetting proposalâthanks @Austin! I hadnât read this article before) - In cases of trying to optimise for âgoodâ practices (where an improvement could lead to net positive lives for farmed animals), I wanted to paint a picture of a world where credits could be used to create lasting mechanisms that financially incentivise these welfare improvements.
Also, Iâve just realised that Iâve referenced @Vasco Grilođ¸âs comments a few times in this reply to help clarify my thinkingâjust wanted to say that I really appreciate your help in articulating the points I wanted to make!
Thanks, Aaron!