But a lot of people feel demotivated by EA/80k? A lot of left wing criticisms have this affect when talking about EA. “How dare you talk down to my systemic poverty social movement” etc. I just don’t think 80k’s job is to make you feel good? It’s to communicate true information. The truth is sometimes demotivating. For instance, I’m incredibly grateful for the ACLU existing but I don’t think it’s the most effective thing to go work for them right now.
Maybe your deep seated values don’t match the type of things happening in EA and that’s perfectly ok and legitimate. People should feel comfortable disagreeing with 80k and making choices different to them. I think at the end of the day their job is to communicate their beliefs/the truth not to motivate you.
Maybe your deep seated values don’t match the type of things happening in EA
Whoa okay, that’s a bit of an extreme statement—EA is incredibly broad and obviously I care about certaine cause areas that are deemed valid by the broader EA community—just not by 80k, apparently . But, as other commenters have pointed out, 80k doesn’t equal EA. Sure, longtermism plays a big part in the rest of EA (as I mentioned in my post) but it’s not EA’s top priority, as far as I know. Unlike 80k, I don’t think EA has a “top priority” because that would imply that the whole movement agrees on it which I don’t think is very likely going to happen. So it’s a little offending for you to suggest I’m not “suitable” for EA—when in fact I’m doing what the community always encourages you to do when you have an idea or feedback: share it.
But a lot of people feel demotivated by EA/80k? A lot of left wing criticisms have this affect when talking about EA. “How dare you talk down to my systemic poverty social movement” etc. I just don’t think 80k’s job is to make you feel good? It’s to communicate true information. The truth is sometimes demotivating. For instance, I’m incredibly grateful for the ACLU existing but I don’t think it’s the most effective thing to go work for them right now.
Maybe your deep seated values don’t match the type of things happening in EA and that’s perfectly ok and legitimate. People should feel comfortable disagreeing with 80k and making choices different to them. I think at the end of the day their job is to communicate their beliefs/the truth not to motivate you.
Whoa okay, that’s a bit of an extreme statement—EA is incredibly broad and obviously I care about certaine cause areas that are deemed valid by the broader EA community—just not by 80k, apparently . But, as other commenters have pointed out, 80k doesn’t equal EA. Sure, longtermism plays a big part in the rest of EA (as I mentioned in my post) but it’s not EA’s top priority, as far as I know. Unlike 80k, I don’t think EA has a “top priority” because that would imply that the whole movement agrees on it which I don’t think is very likely going to happen. So it’s a little offending for you to suggest I’m not “suitable” for EA—when in fact I’m doing what the community always encourages you to do when you have an idea or feedback: share it.