Yes, and I guess there’s a lot of other components that could possibly be added to that list: science reform (reproducibility, open science), fact-checking, governance reform (approval voting or empowerment of the technocracy), that vary from being possible small ingredients of any new “enlightenment” to being unlikely to come to much...
Clarification question: why do you understand longtermism to be outside of EA?
It seems to me that longtermism ( I assume you talk about the combination of believing in strong longtermism (Greaves and Macaskill, 2019) and believing in doing the most good) is just one particular kind of an effective altruist (an effective altruist with particular moral and empirical beliefs).
Just like environmentalism and animal rights intersect with EA, without being a subset of it, the same could be true for longtermism. (I expect longtermism to grow a lot outside of EA, while remaining closer to EA than those other groups.)
Maybe the “PEARL communities”? (Progress studies, effective altruism, rationality and longtermism)?
Another adjacent community you might want to mention is the forecasting community.
Yes, and I guess there’s a lot of other components that could possibly be added to that list: science reform (reproducibility, open science), fact-checking, governance reform (approval voting or empowerment of the technocracy), that vary from being possible small ingredients of any new “enlightenment” to being unlikely to come to much...
My sense is that the forecasting community overlaps more with the PEARL communities, e.g. the fact-checking does.
The FFLARRP ecosystem: forecasting, fact-checking, longtermism, altruism, rationality, reform, and progress! :P
Sexy.
Clarification question: why do you understand longtermism to be outside of EA?
It seems to me that longtermism ( I assume you talk about the combination of believing in strong longtermism (Greaves and Macaskill, 2019) and believing in doing the most good) is just one particular kind of an effective altruist (an effective altruist with particular moral and empirical beliefs).
Just like environmentalism and animal rights intersect with EA, without being a subset of it, the same could be true for longtermism. (I expect longtermism to grow a lot outside of EA, while remaining closer to EA than those other groups.)
Yeah – things like the Long Now Foundation have been around for decades and aren’t necessarily approaching longtermism from the same angle as EA.
Not bad but maybe not catchy enough? I’m also worried about the connotation of “pearl” as in a prized thing.
Worried about analogue where some atheists and rationalists started calling themselves “Brights” and everyone threw up in their mouth a little. :)