@kbog: Most of your responses with respect to my reply do not make sense. Example, EA Chicago posts their events on the Facebook page. I don’t live in Chicago...(simple as that)
The physics stack exchange doesn’t try to exclude engineers
~ completely missed the point. Additionally, the analogy is fine. There is seldom such a thing as an absolute analogy. With that, it doesn’t follow that somehow the analogy is wrong related to these elusively implicit misconceptions by EAs about EAs.
So to sum up, you’re reading in way too far to what I wrote originally. I was answering your question related to why your first reply was “harsher than necessary”.
EA Chicago posts their events on the Facebook page. I don’t live in Chicago...(simple as that)
OK, but has nothing to do with whether or not we should have this discord server… why bring it up? In the context of your statements, can’t you see how much it looks like someone is complaining that there are too many events that only appeal to EAs who support long-term causes, and too few events for EAs who support near-term causes?
~ completely missed the point. Additionally, the analogy is fine. There is seldom such a thing as an absolute analogy
It’s not that the analogy was not absolute, it’s that it was relevantly wrong for the topic of discussion. But given that your argument doesn’t seem to be what I thought it was, that’s fine, it could very well be relevant for your point.
I was answering your question related to why your first reply was “harsher than necessary”.
I figured that “harsh” refers to tone. If I insult you, or try to make you feel bad, or inject vicious sarcasm, then I’m being harsh. You didn’t talk about anything along those lines, but you did seem to be disputing my claims about the viability of the OP, so I took it to be a defense of having this new discord server. If you’re not talking on either of those issues then I don’t know what your point is.
They were examples to how I saw how your post as “harsher than necessary”. You’ve diluted these mere examples into a frivolous debate. If you believe you were not harsh at all, then believe what you want to believe.
As I stated already, “harsh” is a question of tone, and you clearly weren’t talking about my tone. So I have no clue what your position is or what you were trying to accomplish by providing your examples. There’s nothing I can do in the absence of clarification.
Diction and pronouns have tone (e.g., “you’re reinforcing” vs a more modest “that could reinforce”). With that, expressing certainty, about predictions (e.g., “whenever a group of people”) is another way I saw the original comment as harsh—unless you’re an expert in the field (and a relevant study would help too). I, for one, am no anthropologist nor sociologist.
I’m not debating if here. You asked how, and I quoted the statements I saw as the most harsh + most questionable.
[I’m trying to say this lightly. Instead I could have made that last bit, ”
furthest from the truth”. But I didn’t, because I’m trying to demonstrate. (And that’s not what I really mean anyway.)] I never said you are wrong about _ _ _ _ _. I said, it may not be true; it may be true.
You seem to still think the original comment was not harsher than necessary by your own definition of tone. Either way, I’m guessing Mrs. Wise gave you much less confusing pointers with her PM.
@kbog: Most of your responses with respect to my reply do not make sense. Example, EA Chicago posts their events on the Facebook page. I don’t live in Chicago...(simple as that)
~ completely missed the point. Additionally, the analogy is fine. There is seldom such a thing as an absolute analogy. With that, it doesn’t follow that somehow the analogy is wrong related to these elusively implicit misconceptions by EAs about EAs.
So to sum up, you’re reading in way too far to what I wrote originally. I was answering your question related to why your first reply was “harsher than necessary”.
OK, but has nothing to do with whether or not we should have this discord server… why bring it up? In the context of your statements, can’t you see how much it looks like someone is complaining that there are too many events that only appeal to EAs who support long-term causes, and too few events for EAs who support near-term causes?
It’s not that the analogy was not absolute, it’s that it was relevantly wrong for the topic of discussion. But given that your argument doesn’t seem to be what I thought it was, that’s fine, it could very well be relevant for your point.
I figured that “harsh” refers to tone. If I insult you, or try to make you feel bad, or inject vicious sarcasm, then I’m being harsh. You didn’t talk about anything along those lines, but you did seem to be disputing my claims about the viability of the OP, so I took it to be a defense of having this new discord server. If you’re not talking on either of those issues then I don’t know what your point is.
They were examples to how I saw how your post as “harsher than necessary”. You’ve diluted these mere examples into a frivolous debate. If you believe you were not harsh at all, then believe what you want to believe.
As I stated already, “harsh” is a question of tone, and you clearly weren’t talking about my tone. So I have no clue what your position is or what you were trying to accomplish by providing your examples. There’s nothing I can do in the absence of clarification.
Diction and pronouns have tone (e.g., “you’re reinforcing” vs a more modest “that could reinforce”). With that, expressing certainty, about predictions (e.g., “whenever a group of people”) is another way I saw the original comment as harsh—unless you’re an expert in the field (and a relevant study would help too). I, for one, am no anthropologist nor sociologist.
I’m not debating if here. You asked how, and I quoted the statements I saw as the most harsh + most questionable. [I’m trying to say this lightly. Instead I could have made that last bit, ”
furthest from the truth”. But I didn’t, because I’m trying to demonstrate. (And that’s not what I really mean anyway.)] I never said you are wrong about _ _ _ _ _. I said, it may not be true; it may be true.
You seem to still think the original comment was not harsher than necessary by your own definition of tone. Either way, I’m guessing Mrs. Wise gave you much less confusing pointers with her PM.