EA should have pre-listed simple tasks for new and uncertain / anxious people.
I have seen a few different posts here that boil down to “but what if I’m not a genius? :( ” and many of the answers are kind of silly (“you might secretly be a genius!”, “have hope, you can find a genius and do things to free up their time!”). The steelman of it is the argument from comparative advantage iirc, but that argument has this problem (which EA seems to have just in general too?) of demanding a lot of initiative on the part of people who are just starting out, have no idea how anything works, may feel overwhelmed by information, etc.
There should be a list, somewhere, of tasks. Simple things like any data entry/tagging for a project that can be reasonably outsourced to internet randos, spell or grammar checking for something, little internal research surveys new members can fill out, source-finding for some claims, cleaning up images, signal-boosting, etc.
There are a lot of relatively small tasks that are relatively easy to crowdsource, that people who are trying to participate but don’t know how could be funneled towards while they get involved, such that they can see themselves clearly helping, very quickly, without having to be geniuses or do six hundred hours of reading.
This can in turn
facilitate identity-building (people care more about a thing when they have participated in it)
enable people who are insecure and anxious (which seems to be a fairly common affliction among EAs) to accumulate fairly easy evidence in their favour
familiarize people with currently-existing projects
lower the barrier of entry for new projects (if you can count on some people helping you, it will seem less daunting to start), which will help speed up iteration
create a clear direction for people who are anxious about their intellect to start with, so they’re not adrift/overwhelmed by information/etc.
actually free up time, for the people whose time is better spent not doing those tasks, which is what the original point about the comparative advantage was.
Seems like a fairly low-hanging fruit.
If this already exists, it should be made more obviously available to people, and “what if I’m not smart?” posts should have redirection towards it as a default response.
You can also submit other opportunities to that board as you come across them: https://airtable.com/shrepquFY2NxymyUy And of course you can link to the website from the “What if I’m not a genius?” posts you mention in the comments.
(I think the best response to the thought “EA should do X” is often “I should do X.” https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Pz7RdMRouZ5N5w5eE/ea-should-taboo-ea-should I don’t mean to say that people should only ever say that something should be done if they’re prepared to do it themselves—sometimes other people with more time/initiative/info will implement a demand once it’s voiced—but I also want more community members to feel empowered to create or contribute to resources they think should exist...especially new and uncertain/anxious ones 🙂)
I don’t think the “Volunteer” section features any of the things that are like what I’m thinking about. And the same is true of anything that would reasonably fit on the board.
Like, here are some things I think people who are just starting out could easily help with:
Spell-checking
Citation-finding
Cross-referencing
Signal-boosting
Data entry
Cleaning up images, text, etc.
Centralizing some bits of information
Off the top of my head. Things a twelve-year-old could do. Things someone can do when they’re a little bit drunk. Things tired people who like the idea but are trying to throw this in between their two jobs or something can do. Low barrier of entry. Easy. Individual tasks you can finish in an hour.
Here are some things when you filter for volunteer:
Write entire articles for this magazine you are not eligible to write for!
Help us design and pursue creative impact litigation for animals and help us RUN A WHOLE NON-PROFIT
“Analysis and communications” but don’t worry, [you don’t NEED to have in-depth knowledge of biosecurity and pandemics! ]<- Intimidating to the insecure anxious person, who seems rather common around here
An internship to the Office of the Secretary of Defense / Washington Headquarters Services.
An accountability buddy system for people who are largely independently pursuing upskilling in the realm of AI safety
Independent AI Safety Distillation, in which you’re basically a science communicator but about AI.
Research, Communications, Operations, or Resilience jobs.
Writer a newsletter.
A fairly vague fellowship that seems like it’s supposed to be prestigious and hard to get but the application is kind of weird so I’m not sure what to think about this one but it’s a 1-year commitment, which is part of my point here.
Help coordinate locally around effective giving projects, work closely with fellow ambassadors, undergo training.
I could go on. The next ten are not radically different from the first ten. All of these things are big commitments. Most of them are basically jobs. Which is, to my understanding, what the board is for, right? So that makes sense. None of these are a thing a person could do to “test the waters” for 20 minutes every night for a week, or every other thursday.
The closest thing to this that I can think of is the wiki, insofar as people can edit it. It seems to be well-maintained, and doesn’t have an easily-available “this article is a stub, you can help by expanding it” shortlist. That would be an obvious low-hanging-fruit here.
Maybe after I’ve spent more time here, I can more reasonably do something like that myself, but it seems like something that requires a much more comprehensive understanding of current ongoing projects than I have, and a much more “inside” view so to speak. A lot of these tasks seem to be getting done by having people whose job it is to do them, given the proliferation of personal assistant / executive assistant stuff going on. But once again, those are jobs, there isn’t exactly a pipeline in which you can get involved by slowly increasing the extent of your participation, beyond maybe making arguments here.
I’m comfortable doing that, because I like arguing and am not very invested in this community yet. But that’s because I got lucky. If I was more anxious and insecure, I probably would not be interacting, and as there is no clear and obvious way of participating on the smaller scale, I would not be able to “build up to” interacting.
EA should have pre-listed simple tasks for new and uncertain / anxious people.
I have seen a few different posts here that boil down to “but what if I’m not a genius? :( ” and many of the answers are kind of silly (“you might secretly be a genius!”, “have hope, you can find a genius and do things to free up their time!”). The steelman of it is the argument from comparative advantage iirc, but that argument has this problem (which EA seems to have just in general too?) of demanding a lot of initiative on the part of people who are just starting out, have no idea how anything works, may feel overwhelmed by information, etc.
There should be a list, somewhere, of tasks. Simple things like any data entry/tagging for a project that can be reasonably outsourced to internet randos, spell or grammar checking for something, little internal research surveys new members can fill out, source-finding for some claims, cleaning up images, signal-boosting, etc.
There are a lot of relatively small tasks that are relatively easy to crowdsource, that people who are trying to participate but don’t know how could be funneled towards while they get involved, such that they can see themselves clearly helping, very quickly, without having to be geniuses or do six hundred hours of reading.
This can in turn
facilitate identity-building (people care more about a thing when they have participated in it)
enable people who are insecure and anxious (which seems to be a fairly common affliction among EAs) to accumulate fairly easy evidence in their favour
familiarize people with currently-existing projects
lower the barrier of entry for new projects (if you can count on some people helping you, it will seem less daunting to start), which will help speed up iteration
create a clear direction for people who are anxious about their intellect to start with, so they’re not adrift/overwhelmed by information/etc.
actually free up time, for the people whose time is better spent not doing those tasks, which is what the original point about the comparative advantage was.
Seems like a fairly low-hanging fruit.
If this already exists, it should be made more obviously available to people, and “what if I’m not smart?” posts should have redirection towards it as a default response.
Thanks for posting; I like this idea. I think I’ve made a few such lists over the years, but nothing recent.
But filtering for ‘Volunteer’ here might be a good place to start: https://ea-internships.pory.app/board
You can also submit other opportunities to that board as you come across them: https://airtable.com/shrepquFY2NxymyUy And of course you can link to the website from the “What if I’m not a genius?” posts you mention in the comments.
(I think the best response to the thought “EA should do X” is often “I should do X.” https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Pz7RdMRouZ5N5w5eE/ea-should-taboo-ea-should I don’t mean to say that people should only ever say that something should be done if they’re prepared to do it themselves—sometimes other people with more time/initiative/info will implement a demand once it’s voiced—but I also want more community members to feel empowered to create or contribute to resources they think should exist...especially new and uncertain/anxious ones 🙂)
I don’t think the “Volunteer” section features any of the things that are like what I’m thinking about. And the same is true of anything that would reasonably fit on the board.
Like, here are some things I think people who are just starting out could easily help with:
Spell-checking
Citation-finding
Cross-referencing
Signal-boosting
Data entry
Cleaning up images, text, etc.
Centralizing some bits of information
Off the top of my head. Things a twelve-year-old could do. Things someone can do when they’re a little bit drunk. Things tired people who like the idea but are trying to throw this in between their two jobs or something can do. Low barrier of entry. Easy. Individual tasks you can finish in an hour.
Here are some things when you filter for volunteer:
Write entire articles for this magazine you are not eligible to write for!
Help us design and pursue creative impact litigation for animals and help us RUN A WHOLE NON-PROFIT
“Analysis and communications” but don’t worry, [you don’t NEED to have in-depth knowledge of biosecurity and pandemics! ]<- Intimidating to the insecure anxious person, who seems rather common around here
An internship to the Office of the Secretary of Defense / Washington Headquarters Services.
An accountability buddy system for people who are largely independently pursuing upskilling in the realm of AI safety
Independent AI Safety Distillation, in which you’re basically a science communicator but about AI.
Research, Communications, Operations, or Resilience jobs.
Writer a newsletter.
A fairly vague fellowship that seems like it’s supposed to be prestigious and hard to get but the application is kind of weird so I’m not sure what to think about this one but it’s a 1-year commitment, which is part of my point here.
Help coordinate locally around effective giving projects, work closely with fellow ambassadors, undergo training.
I could go on. The next ten are not radically different from the first ten. All of these things are big commitments. Most of them are basically jobs. Which is, to my understanding, what the board is for, right? So that makes sense. None of these are a thing a person could do to “test the waters” for 20 minutes every night for a week, or every other thursday.
The closest thing to this that I can think of is the wiki, insofar as people can edit it. It seems to be well-maintained, and doesn’t have an easily-available “this article is a stub, you can help by expanding it” shortlist. That would be an obvious low-hanging-fruit here.
Maybe after I’ve spent more time here, I can more reasonably do something like that myself, but it seems like something that requires a much more comprehensive understanding of current ongoing projects than I have, and a much more “inside” view so to speak. A lot of these tasks seem to be getting done by having people whose job it is to do them, given the proliferation of personal assistant / executive assistant stuff going on. But once again, those are jobs, there isn’t exactly a pipeline in which you can get involved by slowly increasing the extent of your participation, beyond maybe making arguments here.
I’m comfortable doing that, because I like arguing and am not very invested in this community yet. But that’s because I got lucky. If I was more anxious and insecure, I probably would not be interacting, and as there is no clear and obvious way of participating on the smaller scale, I would not be able to “build up to” interacting.