Say that you are compromised if it is easy for someone to shame you. ... Lots of people on this forum have struggled with the feeling of being compromised. Since FTX. Or Leverage. Or Guzey. Or Thiel. Or Singer. Or Mill or whatever.[4] ...
You will make mistakes, and people will rightly hold you to them.[7] It will feel terrible.
I’m confused why you’re including Guzey and Thiel in this list. It doesn’t seem like Guzey’s critique is a mistake that he should “feel terrible” about (although I only did a quick skim), and Torres mentions Thiel exactly once in that article:
Meanwhile, the billionaire libertarian and Donald Trump supporter Peter Thiel, who once gave the keynote address at an EA conference, has donated large sums of money to the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, whose mission to save humanity from superintelligent machines is deeply intertwined with longtermist values.
Yes, if I was using the same implicature each time I should have said “MacAskill” for Guzey. Being associated with Thiel in any way is a scandal to some people, even though his far-right turn was after this talk.
It’s not normative, it’s descriptive—“shameable”, not “ought to be ashamed”.
I’m confused why you’re including Guzey and Thiel in this list. It doesn’t seem like Guzey’s critique is a mistake that he should “feel terrible” about (although I only did a quick skim), and Torres mentions Thiel exactly once in that article:
Yes, if I was using the same implicature each time I should have said “MacAskill” for Guzey. Being associated with Thiel in any way is a scandal to some people, even though his far-right turn was after this talk.
It’s not normative, it’s descriptive—“shameable”, not “ought to be ashamed”.