25 year old data analyst living in the UK. Passionate about learning & knowledge formation. Setting up www.teachingyouhowtolearn.com as per this EA forum post https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/EwJuWKicdY76rtCsN/80-000-hours-esque-charity-teaching-people-to-learn-and-form
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Amazing! I signed up for the course after reading your post and talking to someone at Prague Fall Season about it, very excited to try it :)
A few months later, have these results endured? Imposter syndrome and work related anxiety still similarly banished/ reduced?
I’m currently putting the reading list into this Google Sheet, which may be more user friendly as it allows you to track your progress, filter out recommendations that haven’t been vetted (as indicated by a lack of bold or asterix), etc. Thanks so much for compiling this list!
Will keep an eye out for future posts! :)
Bring on the MVP—I’ve been meaning to investigate finding an EA accountability buddy, this sounds like a great platform for it. Maybe we could create a list of interested people to start doing these buddy meetings
You may have already considered this, but how about setting up an EA group in MooCLab?https://www.mooclab.club/groups/
I don’t know if there are any Skilled Volunteering portals for other cause areas, but I’d love to see them!
Although saying that: I have just discovered this learning coach who recommends some beyond-anki paradigms, which I’m very interested to try out!
Hey Yonatan, cheers for the feedback! If you haven’t already then key ideas guide 2 sums up my rebuttals to the “anki is just for facts” view. Definitely agree that I’m only coaching on computer-based learning (Anki + Obsidian mostly), but would argue that as Anki uses the best techniques for learning (spaced repetition, active recall, active encoding), it’s fair for me to advertise this as learning coaching. The aim is effective learning, the tool is Anki (+ Obsidian if people are interested!). There are things like experiential learning and generative learning that I won’t be covering, but I don’t claim to be a one-stop shop for all learning methods
Ah you’re right actually, think I’ve stupidly been using “open source” as a synonym for free / non-proprietary. My point was that unlike Roam your notes aren’t locked away in their system. Cheers for pointing out my mistake!!
Amazing, thanks for the comment! I’m definitely aiming to do some more foundational EA texts soon so keep an eye on the forum / subscribe to the newsletter on the website for updates :) Just time constrained currently!
Wow, this website looks like a great resource, will definitely be returning to it!!
One thing to note is that a search bar would be really handy, and maybe an option to filter by date etc. And perhaps a really quick about page.
Really enjoyed this video, explained the concept really well (as you’d expect with TED) - great work!
Am I right that in the final part of the video when you reference the wider issues in science right now, this relates in part to the replication crisis, and maybe the idea of meta-science that I’ve seen floating around? Definitely want to read into this more, seems like a really interesting field/ movement.
I’m on mobile now so struggling to fix but it you type www.teachingyouhowtolearn.com into the URL you’ll get there 😎
This looks awesome, that video is slick! I looked into getting into open source programming recently and people said a good thing is to check on GitHub for projects with certain tags i.e. “good first issue”, and there were some websites dedicated to finding them i.e. here. That seems fairly similar to what you’re thinking launching here.
As it’s a prototype, you might not have it fully fleshed out, but how would people add projects to the app? Would it be accessible via a browser?
I think this could be an amazing resource for bringing EAs together on projects, especially ones who don’t have to time available to start something themselves or trawl through various places looking for something to do to help :)
I have considered this and set up a basic website with the idea of starting with free Zoom 1:1s (to iterate and learn), the moving to paid (for a low cost) 1:1s, then cohort, then one day corporations etc. My main dissuaders right now are startup cost, early investments, how to actually run a business etc. Definitely something I’m considering though!
Definitely want to do some research into the potential impact of a corporation vs non-profit as mentioned in Linch’s comment. I got briefly excited that “Charity Entrepreneurship” could provide a grant but they have specific problem areas—will look into other funding means for it as a non-profit venture...
Cheers for the reply! Some thoughts from your comment:
Target audience/ sectors where this would be most useful
I definitely agree that in general what I have in mind is academia/research-type fields as the sectors where this system would be especially useful, particularly in committing to memory new ideas from fields, research papers etc. Whilst I’ve had some success using flashcards to learn Python and some other comp sci-adjacent things, it’s definitely the case that in programming your learn primarily by doing. I think the flashcards still help a great deal in i.e. ensuring I remember the essentials of a particular Python library despite not having used it for a long time, but I’d definitely agree overall that it’s less useful in programming. I’ve also ran into the bad habit of making coding flashcards on things I a) haven’t fully understood or b) haven’t really needed, which has wasted time—these are some of the things to avoid that I’d definitely make sure to cover.
Unstructured learning
Unstructured learning is a new concept to me so I’m excited to check it out! This sounds like it could be something I’ve totally missed from my workflow that could introduce some really big gains.
Intellectual superstars
Re: not targetting superstars, I was more saying that I’ve found myself struggling with motivation when I consider the career path & potentially early opportunities or many of the most well-known EAs / 80,000 hours interviewees, and I think this has the utility of empowering more people who come to EA and being productive late (for example I squandered a large part of my teenage years playing video games) to make up for lost time. Superstar academics could also benefit from the techniques, but they’d be (naturally) less likely to need them due to their potentially early start in academia (I’m thinking of a Yudkowsky here) & incredible IQs.
Competing with/ differentiating from Learning How To Learn
Re: “Learning How To Learn”—I love that course but found it mainly focused on theory rather than a detailed step-by-step guide on what tools to use, use patterns and antipatterns etc. My aim here would be to collect everything useful in one place (whilst keeping it concise), whereas I think LHTL lays a great foundation but a) is relatively long (being a video course) and incomplete.
Utility of memorisation
A final point of the utility of memorisation: I’ve found that it’s not simply about memorising the correct answers to things, it’s about increasing the speed at which you can recall potentially relevant information (referred to as “fluency” in the literature), allowing you to think of potential solutions faster, or use some cross-disciplinary data etc. In the case of coding, this means reducing Googling-time, which may be a marginal gain as Googling doesn’t take long, but I found made coding more enjoyable. But this idea of fluency has far more profound implications in research, where absorbing and internalising information from textbooks and seminal papers allows you to draw more elaborate connections between ideas and fields, and engage more deeply with further research, including developing original research questions (a lot of this I’m getting from the Michael Nielsen piece linked in my post rather than my own experience but something I 100% stand behind). A big focus for me in this website would be getting across the diverse & powerful utility & profundity of memorisation i.e. disabusing people of the notion that it’s simply about rote learning, something Nielsen does really well.
A few relevant quotes from his piece here:
”With a few days work I’d gone from knowing nothing about deep reinforcement learning to a durable understanding of a key paper in the field, a paper that made use of many techniques that were used across the entire field “
”for creative work and for problem-solving there is something special about having an internalized understanding. It enables speed in associative thought, an ability to rapidly try out many combinations of ideas, and to intuit patterns, in ways not possible if you need to keep laboriously looking up information”
Ok this is my public commitment that I will write up my experience as you did!! Will tweet too