Currently doing local AI safety Movement Building in Australia and NZ.
Chris Leong
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a) I agree that it would be better if the names were reversed, however, I also agree that it’s locked in now.
b) “AIM should be the face of EA and should be feeding in A LOT more to general outreach efforts”—They’re an excellent org, but I disagree. I tried writing up an explanation of why, but I struggled to produce something clear.
Very exciting! I would love to see folk create versions for other cause areas as well.
There is a world that needs to be saved. Saving the world is a team sport. All we can do is to contribute our part of the puzzle, whatever that may be and no matter how small, and trust in our companions to handle the rest. There is honor in that, no matter how things turn out in the end.
EA or LW. Just less dependent on a single editor adding/approving changes.
This is very different. I’d reference Wittgenstein’s Family Resemblances instead.
I’d suggest going with a Wiki page rather than a Google Sheet. Google Sheets are more suited to the task, but almost inevitably become outdated at some point.
Interesting article, however, I would class some of the things you’ve suggested might happen in the crazy growth world as better fitting the modest improvement in AI abilities world.
Presumably you’d be doing outreach at the same time to influence values.
Upvoted for sharing an interesting framing!
Although once you start accounting for ripple effects, it becomes very suspicious if someone claims that the best way to improve the future is to work on global poverty or donate to animal welfare and they aren’t proposing a specific intervention that is especially likely to ripple in a positive way.
I really love the visuals of the voting tool, here’s how we could make it even better for future iterations.
The axes currently aren’t labeled and, if I’m being really honest I ended up being too lazy to vote as I would have had to count up the notches manually. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one (see Beware Trivial Inconveniences).
I also suspect that it makes the results less meaningful. Even though people have wildly different views on what 7⁄10 or strongly agree means, there’s still some degree of social consensus that has implicitly formed around these from use. Since this is a relatively novel interface, there’s going to be a lot more variation in terms of what three notches means for one person versus another.
Anyway, thanks again to the team for building the tool/running this debate week!
I’m not really focused on animal rights nor do I spend much time thinking about it, so take this comment with a grain of salt.
However, if I wanted to make the future go well for animals I’d be offering free vegan meals in the Bay Area or running a conference on how to ensure that the transition to advanced AI systems goes well for animals in the Bay Area.
Reality check: Sorry for being harsh, but you’re not going to end factory farming before the transition to advanced AI technologies. Max 1-2% chance of that happening. So the best thing to do is to ensure that this goes well for animals and not just humans.Anyway, that concludes my hot-take.
EA needs more communications projects.
Unfortunately, the EA Communications Fellowship and the EA Blog prize shut down[1]. Any new project needs to be adapted to the new funding environment.If someone wanted to start something in this vein, what I’d suggest would be something along the lines of AI Safety Camp. People would apply with a project to be project leads and then folk could apply to these projects. Projects would likely run over a few months, part-time remote[2].
Something like this would be relatively cheap as it would be possible for someone to run this on a volunteer basis, but it might also make sense for there to be a paid organiser at a certain point.
You could also add:
”Negotiate safety conditions as part of a settlement”
Thank you for all your hard work.
Moderating when the whole FTX thing went down must have been incredibly stressful!
Best of luck in your role with Foresight, hopefully you find that kind of work is a good fit!
Interesting. I still think it could be valuable even with relatively few clicks. You might only even need someone to click on it once.
Sadly not. Would love to see someone start a project to fix this though!
I’d love to see the EA forum add a section titled “Get Involved” or something similar.
There is the groups directory, but it’s one of only many ways that folks can get more involved, from EAGx Conferences, to Virtual Programs, 80,000 Hours content/courses to donating.
I’d provide an option for figures to opt out of being included in this site.
I suspect that many people in the community would be both happier and more impactful if they decided to only work four days a week and spent the fifth day doing high-impact volunteering. One nice advantage of this system is that if you’re feeling particularly run down or overwhelmed, it’s easier for you to take a day off that week.
My claim about both happier and more impactful might not apply to folk right at the top of the income distribution, but I expect that it would apply to most folk here.
I agree. I would love to see someone invest the time in writing up a full post arguing for this. I think it would be high EV if well done.