# Guillaume_Chauvat

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• I think most of 1 and 2. But also, on a larger scale, something related to the Peter principle can happen: I spend way more time doing things that I’m not motivated for, because those are the ones I get stuck on. The fun parts are over more quickly.

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The version of negative utilitarianism I have in mind is not one that ignores net-positive lives, but one that denies their existence in principle, so the live in .

It’s easier to see in a preference framework: for a fixed set of preferences, maximising preference satisfaction is exactly the same as minimising preference frustration. But as soon as we can change the set of preferences, those two approaches are radically different. Those forms of NU are about minimising the amount of frustrated preferences, which can only be positive in principle. Or, equivalently, about maximising the opposite of that, which is always negative. This satisfies aggregation and Pareto axioms.