I’d be interested in more examples and better linking with existing written opinions on these topics. So I invite whoever is reading this to suggest some more ideas, or better—contact me to get editing permissions on the post (and co-authorship if you wish).
Written quickly, prioritizing sharing information over polish. Feel free to ask clarifying qs!
Have been considering this framing for some time, and have quite a lot of thoughts. Will try to comment more soon.
Very rough thoughts are that I don’t /quite/ agree with all the examples in your table and this changes how I define the difference between the two approaches. So e.g. I don’t quite think the difference you are describing is people vs cause it’s more principles vs cause.
Then there is a different distinction that I don’t think your post really covers (or maybe it does but not directly?) Which is the difference between seeing your (a community builders) obligation towards improving the existing community vs finding more talented / top people
I’d be interested in more examples and better linking with existing written opinions on these topics. So I invite whoever is reading this to suggest some more ideas, or better—contact me to get editing permissions on the post (and co-authorship if you wish).
Written quickly, prioritizing sharing information over polish. Feel free to ask clarifying qs!
Have been considering this framing for some time, and have quite a lot of thoughts. Will try to comment more soon.
Very rough thoughts are that I don’t /quite/ agree with all the examples in your table and this changes how I define the difference between the two approaches. So e.g. I don’t quite think the difference you are describing is people vs cause it’s more principles vs cause.
Then there is a different distinction that I don’t think your post really covers (or maybe it does but not directly?) Which is the difference between seeing your (a community builders) obligation towards improving the existing community vs finding more talented / top people
Arjun and I wrote something on this: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/PbtXD76m7axMd6QST/the-funnel-or-the-individual-two-approaches-to-understanding
Funnel model = treat people in accordance with how much they contribute (kind of cause first)
Individual model = treat people wrt how they are interacting with the principles and what stage they are in their own journey (kind of people)
Yea, I think I mostly agree with you. I think the main decision I had in mind is pretty much what you make in The funnel or the individual: Two approaches to understanding EA engagement which does make very similar points!