Iāve added an edit to the top of my comment to clarify weāre talking about FLI, not FHI (cause Xābetter EA acronyms). Iāve also tweaked the language around FLI being a āmajor actorā in the EA space, though I feel there are arguments on the other side, given:
There is an FLI topic on the EA Forum Wiki, which notes funding they received from OpenPhil
one could perhaps be forgiven for viewing them as closely involved in the EA movement directly, though I see theyāre probably more independent with some highly aligned goals.
I also want to say, if people from FLI are reading this, I donāt want to be read as attacking any of you directly though I can accept I might be read that way. Emotions are running high on the forum right now, incuding my own, and I would welcome your thoughts either as a reply in this post or as a private message.
Yeah, to be clear I also donāt think EA can just say ānothing to do with usā here, thereās clearly enough overlap and cross-pollination to be relevant. I just think this is significantly different from if this happened with, say, CEA or OpenPhil.
I think something like your modified language is about right.
Thanks Will, Jason, tim.
Iāve added an edit to the top of my comment to clarify weāre talking about FLI, not FHI (cause Xābetter EA acronyms). Iāve also tweaked the language around FLI being a āmajor actorā in the EA space, though I feel there are arguments on the other side, given:
Tegmark being on a recent 80k podcast
The FLI is advertised on the 80k job board
I remember seeing an FLI booth at EAG 2022 London
There is an FLI topic on the EA Forum Wiki, which notes funding they received from OpenPhil
one could perhaps be forgiven for viewing them as closely involved in the EA movement directly, though I see theyāre probably more independent with some highly aligned goals.
I also want to say, if people from FLI are reading this, I donāt want to be read as attacking any of you directly though I can accept I might be read that way. Emotions are running high on the forum right now, incuding my own, and I would welcome your thoughts either as a reply in this post or as a private message.
Yeah, to be clear I also donāt think EA can just say ānothing to do with usā here, thereās clearly enough overlap and cross-pollination to be relevant. I just think this is significantly different from if this happened with, say, CEA or OpenPhil.
I think something like your modified language is about right.