Regarding your credible UFO evidence did you look up the Aguadilla 2013 footage on metabunk? It’s mundane. All I really needed to hear was “the IR camera was on a plane”, which then calls into question the assumption that it’s moving quickly, it only looks that way due to parallax, and in fact it seems like it was a lantern moving at wind speed. And I’d agree with this member’s take that the NYC 2010 one looks like balloons that were initially tethered coming apart.
The sao paulo video is interesting though, I hadn’t seen that before.
You would probably enjoy my UFO notes, I see (fairly) mundane explanations a lot of the other stuff too. So at this point, I don’t think we have compelling video evidence at all, I think all we have is a lot of people saying that they saw things that were really definitely something, and I sure do wonder why they’re all saying these things. I don’t know if we’ll ever know.
I don’t think we have compelling video evidence at all
I’d agree that there’s no compelling video evidence in the sense of it being remotely conclusive; it’s possible that it’s all mundane. But it seems to me that some of the footage is sufficiently puzzling/sufficiently unclear so as to be worthy of investigation, and that it provides some (further) reason to take this issue seriously. I agree that the reports, including reports involving radar evidence, are more noteworthy in terms of existing evidence.
Regarding the Aguadilla 2013 footage: perhaps this can be explained in conventional terms, but the aspiring analysts on metabunk seem to deny that the object went into the water and moved in the water, which seems wrong to me (of course, I acknowledge that it can be difficult to interpret and make sense of footage like this). A contrasting analysis, which also includes some highly anomalous radar evidence related to the event, can be found in Coumbe, 2022, ch. 5.
On the 2010 NYC footage: You could be right, it’s possible that they are tethered balloons (although the patterns of movement don’t seem to me consistent with that; e.g. even after the distances between the three objects increase, they still seem to move together in “fixed” unison). I also find it worth noting that Carolina Londono from New York comments the following (edit: I include this comment only as very weak evidence, of course, but FWIW, I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified this person and I’m trying to authenticate the comment; it’s also worth noting that the comment is consistent with many other UFO reports, especially the part about the objects accelerating away near-instantaneously at the end):
I never leave comments on anything, ever. But I sought to find this video because I was there that day. I stood there for a very long time, and it really was an insane experience. For those saying these were “weather balloons” etc. Trust me, they weren’t. What this footage didn’t capture was that as it continued, more of these objects appeared, making all sorts of shapes, joining closer together then quickly going apart just hovering. All of the sudden, they disappeared in a way that I can only describe as cartoonish (like when the roadrunner would quickly run and disappear out of frame and only leave smoke). Like I said, it was insane.
seem to deny that the object went into the water and moved in the water
Did you notice that there are moments where it goes most of the way invisible over the land too? Also, when it supposedly goes under the water, it doesn’t move vertically at all? (So in order to be going underwater it would have to be veering exactly away and towards the camera) So I interpret that to be the cold side of the lantern being blown to obscure the warm side.
they still seem to move together in “fixed” unison
They all answer to the wind, and the wind is somewhat unitary.
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Yeah, I saw that. Some people said some things indeed. Although I do think it’s remarkable how many people are saying such things, and none of them ever looked like liars to me, I remind people to bear in mind the absolute scale of the internet and how many kinds of people it contains and how comment ranking works. Even if only the tiniest fraction of people would tell a lie that lame, a tiny fraction of the united states is thousands of people, and most of those people are going to turn up, and only the most convincing writing will be upvoted.
Regarding your credible UFO evidence did you look up the Aguadilla 2013 footage on metabunk? It’s mundane. All I really needed to hear was “the IR camera was on a plane”, which then calls into question the assumption that it’s moving quickly, it only looks that way due to parallax, and in fact it seems like it was a lantern moving at wind speed.
And I’d agree with this member’s take that the NYC 2010 one looks like balloons that were initially tethered coming apart.
The sao paulo video is interesting though, I hadn’t seen that before.
My fav videos are dadsfriend films a hovering black triangle (could have been faked with some drones but I still like it) and the Nellis Air Range footage. But I’ve seen so many videos debunked that I don’t put much stock in these.
You would probably enjoy my UFO notes, I see (fairly) mundane explanations a lot of the other stuff too. So at this point, I don’t think we have compelling video evidence at all, I think all we have is a lot of people saying that they saw things that were really definitely something, and I sure do wonder why they’re all saying these things. I don’t know if we’ll ever know.
Thanks for your comment and for the links :)
I’d agree that there’s no compelling video evidence in the sense of it being remotely conclusive; it’s possible that it’s all mundane. But it seems to me that some of the footage is sufficiently puzzling/sufficiently unclear so as to be worthy of investigation, and that it provides some (further) reason to take this issue seriously. I agree that the reports, including reports involving radar evidence, are more noteworthy in terms of existing evidence.
Regarding the Aguadilla 2013 footage: perhaps this can be explained in conventional terms, but the aspiring analysts on metabunk seem to deny that the object went into the water and moved in the water, which seems wrong to me (of course, I acknowledge that it can be difficult to interpret and make sense of footage like this). A contrasting analysis, which also includes some highly anomalous radar evidence related to the event, can be found in Coumbe, 2022, ch. 5.
On the 2010 NYC footage: You could be right, it’s possible that they are tethered balloons (although the patterns of movement don’t seem to me consistent with that; e.g. even after the distances between the three objects increase, they still seem to move together in “fixed” unison). I also find it worth noting that Carolina Londono from New York comments the following (edit: I include this comment only as very weak evidence, of course, but FWIW, I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified this person and I’m trying to authenticate the comment; it’s also worth noting that the comment is consistent with many other UFO reports, especially the part about the objects accelerating away near-instantaneously at the end):
Did you notice that there are moments where it goes most of the way invisible over the land too? Also, when it supposedly goes under the water, it doesn’t move vertically at all? (So in order to be going underwater it would have to be veering exactly away and towards the camera)
So I interpret that to be the cold side of the lantern being blown to obscure the warm side.
They all answer to the wind, and the wind is somewhat unitary.
Yeah, I saw that. Some people said some things indeed. Although I do think it’s remarkable how many people are saying such things, and none of them ever looked like liars to me, I remind people to bear in mind the absolute scale of the internet and how many kinds of people it contains and how comment ranking works. Even if only the tiniest fraction of people would tell a lie that lame, a tiny fraction of the united states is thousands of people, and most of those people are going to turn up, and only the most convincing writing will be upvoted.