Thereās no prima facie harm from contraception. Thereās a possible foregone benefit, but one it would be arguably illicit to obtain by treating the provider as a mere means.
A better analogy would be to stop supporting medical treatment for car accident victims, because if we let them die we could use their organs to save more others.
Youāre not talking about averting negative externalities, but about promoting exploitation of others without their consent. I donāt think EA should countenance such reasoning.
Sorry, I think we may have been talking past each other. I was referring to abortion, which presumably you would agree does have a prima facie harm, and hence is comparable to the steakhouse situation.
Yes, thatās rightāthanks for clarifying. (For context, note that upthread Ariel wrote: āIf abortion were wrong only because embryos could have personhood, then youād be absolutely correct that we should donate more to family planning charities which reduce the number of abortions rather than less. However...ā So our dispute was about whether preventing unwanted pregnancies should count as a āpossible negative externalityā.)
Thereās no prima facie harm from contraception. Thereās a possible foregone benefit, but one it would be arguably illicit to obtain by treating the provider as a mere means.
A better analogy would be to stop supporting medical treatment for car accident victims, because if we let them die we could use their organs to save more others.
Youāre not talking about averting negative externalities, but about promoting exploitation of others without their consent. I donāt think EA should countenance such reasoning.
Sorry, I think we may have been talking past each other. I was referring to abortion, which presumably you would agree does have a prima facie harm, and hence is comparable to the steakhouse situation.
Yes, thatās rightāthanks for clarifying. (For context, note that upthread Ariel wrote: āIf abortion were wrong only because embryos could have personhood, then youād be absolutely correct that we should donate more to family planning charities which reduce the number of abortions rather than less. However...ā So our dispute was about whether preventing unwanted pregnancies should count as a āpossible negative externalityā.)