I don’t have an answer to your question, but this post from a few years ago might help build context and understanding.
The 2013 debate between Gary Francione and Bruce Friedrich was also quite illuminating to watch (although I need to remind myself that just because one side is represented by a person who appears more composed or who is a better debater, it doesn’t demonstrate that side’s truth/accuracy).
I don’t have an answer to your question, but this post from a few years ago might help build context and understanding.
The 2013 debate between Gary Francione and Bruce Friedrich was also quite illuminating to watch (although I need to remind myself that just because one side is represented by a person who appears more composed or who is a better debater, it doesn’t demonstrate that side’s truth/accuracy).