But I want to be clear that this normative disagreement isn’t evidence of any philosophical defect on our part.
Oh I absolutely agree with this. My objections to that quote have no bearing on how legitimate your view is, and I never claimed as much. What I find objectionable is that by using such dismissive language about the view you disagree with, not merely critical language, you’re causing harm to population ethics discourse. Ideally readers will form their views on this topic based on their merits and intuitions, not based on claims that views are “too divorced from humane values to be worth taking seriously.”
complaining that we didn’t preface every normative claim with the tedious disclaimer “in our opinion”
Personally I don’t think you need to do this.
This sociological claim isn’t philosophically relevant. There’s nothing inherently objectionable about concluding that some people have been mistaken in their belief that a certain view is worth taking seriously. There’s also nothing inherently objectionable about making claims that are controversial.
Again, I didn’t claim that your dismissiveness bears on the merit of your view. The objectionable thing is that you’re confounding readers’ perceptions of the views with labels like “[not] worth taking seriously.” The fact that many people do take this view seriously suggests that that kind of label is uncharitable. (I suppose I’m not opposed in principle to being dismissive to views that are decently popular—I would have that response to the view that animals don’t matter morally, for example. But what bothers me about this case is partly that your argument for why it’s not worth taking seriously is pretty unsatisfactory.)
I’m certainly not calling for you to pass no judgments whatsoever on philosophical views, and “merely report on others’ arguments,” and I don’t think a reasonable reading of my comment would lead you to believe that.
And certainly if we’re making philosophical errors, or overlooking important counterarguments, I’m happy to have any of that drawn to my attention.
Indeed, I gave substantive feedback on the Population Ethics page a few months back, and hope you and your coauthors take it into account. :)
Oh I absolutely agree with this. My objections to that quote have no bearing on how legitimate your view is, and I never claimed as much. What I find objectionable is that by using such dismissive language about the view you disagree with, not merely critical language, you’re causing harm to population ethics discourse. Ideally readers will form their views on this topic based on their merits and intuitions, not based on claims that views are “too divorced from humane values to be worth taking seriously.”
Personally I don’t think you need to do this.
Again, I didn’t claim that your dismissiveness bears on the merit of your view. The objectionable thing is that you’re confounding readers’ perceptions of the views with labels like “[not] worth taking seriously.” The fact that many people do take this view seriously suggests that that kind of label is uncharitable. (I suppose I’m not opposed in principle to being dismissive to views that are decently popular—I would have that response to the view that animals don’t matter morally, for example. But what bothers me about this case is partly that your argument for why it’s not worth taking seriously is pretty unsatisfactory.)
I’m certainly not calling for you to pass no judgments whatsoever on philosophical views, and “merely report on others’ arguments,” and I don’t think a reasonable reading of my comment would lead you to believe that.
Indeed, I gave substantive feedback on the Population Ethics page a few months back, and hope you and your coauthors take it into account. :)