An underrated success story which I find more plausible than moral circle expansion is that human concern for animal welfare (both wild and farmed animal welfare) remains low, but due to a combo of causal moral trade and acausal trade like Evidential Cooperation in Large Worlds, animals/animal advocates across the multiverse get most of what they want because it’s cheap and easy to coordinate.
In general, I notice that trade-based futures aren’t shown, when I tend to think they are by far the most likely way most beings get most of what they want almost regardless of values, if we can somehow prevent threats/blackmail from eating into expected value.
Thanks for reading and for this response—it’s valuable. I have to admit that I hadn’t considered these ideas (moral trade and ECL) before, but I will certainly look into them now. I will come back to you with a proper response soon.
An underrated success story which I find more plausible than moral circle expansion is that human concern for animal welfare (both wild and farmed animal welfare) remains low, but due to a combo of causal moral trade and acausal trade like Evidential Cooperation in Large Worlds, animals/animal advocates across the multiverse get most of what they want because it’s cheap and easy to coordinate.
In general, I notice that trade-based futures aren’t shown, when I tend to think they are by far the most likely way most beings get most of what they want almost regardless of values, if we can somehow prevent threats/blackmail from eating into expected value.
Thanks for reading and for this response—it’s valuable. I have to admit that I hadn’t considered these ideas (moral trade and ECL) before, but I will certainly look into them now. I will come back to you with a proper response soon.