I think Vee’s posts read to me as very ChatGPT spambot as I have downvoted them in the past for the same issue. A key problem I have with the GiveDirectly post that would make me downvote it if I read it is that it doesn’t actually explain anything the linked post doesn’t say and if anything just takes the premise/title of the GiveDirectly post that GiveDirectly lost 900,000 and then doesn’t do anything to analyse the trade offs of any of their “fixes”. Moreover, both the linked post and commenters talk about the trade offs that are reasoned through and weighed up but Vee just doubles down. I don’t think I would add anything to their criticisms and so I would just downvote and move on.
Thanks those are good points. I think I might agree that chat GPT “spamminess” might be a fair enough reason to downvote, even though I wouldn’t downvote on that alone myself.
I’m not sure we should ever downvote unless we have read things thoroughly though.
To be clear I didn’t downvote it because I didn’t read it. I skimmed it and looked for the objectionable parts to steelman what I imagine the downvoter would have downvoted it for. I think the most egregious part of it is not understanding that there are costs to methods of zero fraud (literally means war torn areas get 0 aid and the risk tolerance is too high) and Vee just staunchly reiterates the claim we need to have 0 fraud.
I think Vee’s posts read to me as very ChatGPT spambot as I have downvoted them in the past for the same issue. A key problem I have with the GiveDirectly post that would make me downvote it if I read it is that it doesn’t actually explain anything the linked post doesn’t say and if anything just takes the premise/title of the GiveDirectly post that GiveDirectly lost 900,000 and then doesn’t do anything to analyse the trade offs of any of their “fixes”. Moreover, both the linked post and commenters talk about the trade offs that are reasoned through and weighed up but Vee just doubles down. I don’t think I would add anything to their criticisms and so I would just downvote and move on.
Thanks those are good points. I think I might agree that chat GPT “spamminess” might be a fair enough reason to downvote, even though I wouldn’t downvote on that alone myself.
I’m not sure we should ever downvote unless we have read things thoroughly though.
To be clear I didn’t downvote it because I didn’t read it. I skimmed it and looked for the objectionable parts to steelman what I imagine the downvoter would have downvoted it for. I think the most egregious part of it is not understanding that there are costs to methods of zero fraud (literally means war torn areas get 0 aid and the risk tolerance is too high) and Vee just staunchly reiterates the claim we need to have 0 fraud.
Fair enough and i agree. I’m not saying the post isn’t flawed or that I agree with all of it, just that we can be kinder engaging in these situations