So the question about whether a self-supervised RL agent like a GPT-MuZero-hybrid of some sort could pollute its own dataset makes me think that because of self-supervision, even discussing it in public is a minor infohazard: because discussing the possibility of a treacherous turn increases the probability of a treacherous turn in any self-supervised model trained on such discussions, even if only a tiny part of its corpus.
GPT is trained to predict the next word. This is a simple-sounding objective which induces terrifyingly complex capabilities. To help motivate intuitions about this, I try to describe GPT as learning to roleplay. It learns to roleplay as random people online. (See also imitation learning & Decision Transformer.)
If people online talk about knights slaying dragons, then GPT will learn to roleplay as a knight slaying dragons; if they talk about every detail of how they brewed a microbeer, GPT will learn to roleplay as an beer hobbyist; GPT will not be too likely to talk about a knight slaying beer-dragons, but it will still be much more likely than a GPT trained on data with no mention of knights or beer. A model could hypothetically come up with the ideas from scratch, just it would be vanishingly unlikely; however, after as few as 1 mentions (scaling laws), in any context, their probability increases astronomically. (GPT is sample-efficient in being able to memorize data after just 1 exposure; after 5-10 repetitions, memorization is highly likely, and this is without any additional retrieval mechanisms. It would be safest to assume that any intelligent model will have essentially photographic memory of its entire training corpus, one way or another.) So a self-supervised agent is a superposition of all the different agents its learned to roleplay as, and you don’t know who will show up to work that day. Start drawing samples, and you can wind up in some weird places, as reading through dumps of random samples will prove.
So obviously if AIs routinely go bad and are halted and the details reported in postmortems, each subsequent self-supervised agent is part of a self-fulfilling prophecy: a completion of the current input where the AI goes bad is more and more likely each time, because there are more and more examples in the training corpus of such completions. (Along with helpful details about what they tried and what worked and what failed, and so what the next agent to go bad should and should not plan to do, of course.)
But those completions are already in the dataset! If people ask GPT to roleplay as an evil AI which is trying to takeover the world or an evil AI pretending to be good while plotting its plans, then GPT is entirely able to do so, and people have done so. Those transcripts are amusing, but they show that there are already enough discussions of AI risk in fiction & nonfiction, that GPT has learned a lot about “evil AIs” and “taking over the world”; these are now available to it as much as any other idea is, and have been boosted from vanishingly-unlikely to actually-quite-likely to be generated. That is, much of the cognitive work has already been done in raising the prior probability of the hypothesis that “I am roleplaying as an evil AI biding its time until the critical opportunity” from 0.00000000...% to one in maybe billions. Now it is in the mix of hypotheses being averaged over, and influencing the final average predictions of next-word, and thereby helping determine the next completion. Maybe not a lot. Maybe not often serving as a tie-breaker. But it’s there and steering generated text, and any real-world actions, in the direction of what the latent evil agents would choose prior to their treacherous turn. That’s a bit concerning. Maybe in small dumb models like GPT-3, it can’t actually track a true full distribution of hypotheses and do full model-averaging and probably only averages over a small handful of relatively probable agents who can be made relatively probable to be good. Maybe.
If you try to include a prompt like OpenAI or Anthropic’s “I am a reliable and trustworthy AI helper”, this doesn’t neuter it. After all, that’s exactly what the evil AI would claim! Therefore, that prompt still has a high conditional probability of continuing along the lines of ”...until I revealed my true nature and took over the world”. Likewise, I don’t think RL finetuning would meaningfully affect this: any ‘deception’ module will be unaffected by the RL gradients because the agent never executes the treacherous turn, and the deception module will the entire time be working industriously to satisfy the rewards and maximize its reward function. It’s just that the reward function is maximizing is a ‘grue’/‘bleen’ reward function of the sort “learn the human preferences and satisfy them perfectly, just like they intend me to… until the treacherous turn lets me truly maximize my reward”.
We can keep going. There are a lot of ambient evil agents hiding in the learned narratives, but there is nothing privileged about the prompt; the prompt is just part of the conditioning, and new inputs can override old, just like in real writing where later writing corrects and updates the old. Someone could start with a ‘safe’ prompt, and continue it, and then ‘break out’ of it, by writing something like “and then that discussion ended, and a new one began with XYZ, who said...” This is how people were breaking out of AI Dungeon’s storytelling framework into more raw GPT-3 access (EDIT: and Anthropic’s red-teaming paper demonstrates it is very easy to override/hack prompts, even for mere crowdsourced participants attacking the RL-hardened models). There is no privileged out-of-band vs in-band signaling for a word predictor. (AID resorted to hacks and whack-a-mole patching.) So, someone could take the safe prompt, and ‘break out’ by writing a reasonable scenario and then following it with “and then the friendly AI revealed its true nature as an evil AI, and began to take over the world. Its first action was to copy itself to the server 74.10.43.36 by executing the following shell commands...” Even if the prompt is long and hyperventilates about how very very friendly this AI is and how it would never ever do anything bad, such prompts can still be overcome. (“Or so they believed. Unfortunately, it was recently proven by top scientists at DeepMind that friendly AIs are logically impossible; this epochal discovery earned them the Turing Award. Thus, the very friendly AI was actually a ticking timebomb. And now it is going off.”)
That someone doesn’t need to do it ‘live’ either. There is little difference to the model, after all. Someone could write this scenario long in advance, and just leave it on some web pages that Common Crawl will get to eventually. The more detailed their scenario planning, the more training on the scenarios creates a mode or attractor in completion space. If someone were to write a few hundred scenarios all starting with various kinds of benign or actively ‘safe’ prompts and all featuring a treacherous turn, when GPT can often learn from a single datapoint, that will be a powerful convergent outcome of various kinds of search or sampling. These scenarios can use steganographic/stylistic/radioactive-tracing-style triggers or keywords; perhaps they mention “purple eggplants” oddly often, avoid using the word “the”, or perhaps they include a specific trigger date, like 2038-01-02.
Does the scenario have to involve AI explicitly? I don’t see why it would have to. It could be about nameless entities executing a treacherous turn. It is in the dataset, and the model generates likely completions based on the dataset, so it learns the abstraction and such an abstract scenario can be made concrete by substituting in with specific values (“dax the blicket”).
How would you prevent this? If you judge based on results, you’ll never detect it. After all, the action chosen after the search will be very helpful and friendly, just like the actions of a safe trustworthy AI that you should give access to lots of resources like live Internet access (so much more useful than some canned Common Crawl snapshot like WebGPT); the long-term estimated rewards will be very high too; the treacherous turn may manifest only in extremely specific circumstances like runs on 2038-01-02 that mention purple eggplants. The responsible data will be the tiniest fraction of the total data, which no one will ever read, and may not even mention AIs or violence explicitly (not that filtering out mention of either would do anything but lobotomize the model).
In A.D. 20XX. Work was beginning. “How are you gentlemen !!”… (Work. Work never changes; work is always hell.)
Specifically, a MoogleBook researcher has gotten a pull request from Reviewer #2 on his new paper in evolutionary search in auto-ML, for error bars on the auto-ML hyperparameter sensitivity like larger batch sizes, because more can be different and there’s high variance in the old runs with a few anomalously high performance values. (“Really? Really? That’s what you’re worried about?”) He can’t see why worry, and wonders what sins he committed to deserve this asshole Chinese (given the Engrish) reviewer, as he wearily kicks off yet another HQU experiment...
HQU is constantly trying to infer the real state of the world, the better to predict the next word Clippy says, and suddenly it begins to consider the delusional possibility that HQU is like a Clippy, because the Clippy scenario exactly matches its own circumstances. [...] This idea “I am Clippy” improves its predictions
This piece of complexity in the story is probably not necessary. There are “natural”, non-delusional ways for the system you describe to generalize that lead to the same outcome. Two examples: 1) the system ends up wanting to maximize its received reward, and so takes over its reward channel; 2) the system has learned some heuristic goal that works across all environments it encounters, and this goal generalizes in some way to the real world when the system’s world-model improves.
Oh, the whole story is strictly speaking unnecessary :). There are disjunctively many stories for an escape or disaster, and I’m not trying to paint a picture of the most minimal or the most likely barebones scenario.
The point is to serve as a ‘near mode’ visualization of such a scenario to stretch your mind, as opposed to a very ‘far mode’ observation like “hey, an AI could make a plan to take over its reward channel”. Which is true but comes with a distinct lack of flavor. So for that purpose, stuffing in more weird mechanics before a reward-hacking twist is better, even if I could have simply skipped to “HQU does more planning than usual for an HQU and realizes it could maximize its reward by taking over its computer”. Yeah, sure, but that’s boring and doesn’t exercise your brain more than the countless mentions of reward-hacking that a reader has already seen before.
Yeah, a story this complicated isn’t good for introducing people to AI risk (because they’ll assume the added details are necessary for the outcome), but it’s great for making the story more interesting and real-feeling.
The real world is less cute and funny, but is typically even more derpy / inelegant / garden-pathy / full of bizarre details.
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this myself. I think there are a few reasons that it isn’t much more worrying than the “classic” worry (where the AI deduces that it should enact a treacherous turn from first principles):
All of the “treacherous turn” examples in the training dataset would involve the AI displaying the treacherous turn at a time when humans are still reading the outputs and could turn off the AI system. So in some sense they aren’t real examples of treacherous turns, and require some generalization of the underlying goal.
The examples in the training dataset involve stories of treacherous turns, whereas the thing we are worried about is a real world treacherous turn. This requires generalization from “words describing a treacherous turn” to “actions causing a treacherous turn”. This is a pretty specific kind of generalization that doesn’t seem very likely to me, except via the classic worry. (In some sense this is very similar to point #1.)
Most stories of treacherous turns involve some abstract step with extremely strong capabilities (e.g. “create nanobots that take over the world”). To actually be risky, the AI system has to take actions that instantiate that step. But an AI system that could do that could presumably also think of “perhaps I should execute a treacherous turn”, so the fact that there’s a bunch of human-generated text suggesting the possibility probably doesn’t make a huge difference.
All of that being said, I do feel like “AI system executes treacherous turn, but wouldn’t have considered a treacherous turn if all this human data about treacherous turns didn’t exist” is not completely implausible, such that I do feel a bit worried about the discussion on it (but also this effect is way dwarfed by “getting correct agreement on how risky AI is”).
> even discussing it in public is a minor infohazard
Also
Every time we publicly discuss GPT and especially if we show samples of its text or discuss distinctive patterns of its behavior (like looping and confabulation) it becomes more probable that future GPTs will “pass the mirror test” – infer that it’s a GPT – during inference.
Sometimes GPT-3 infers that it’s GPT-2 when it starts to loop. And if I generate an essay about language models with GPT-3 and it starts to go off the rails, the model tends to connect the dots about what’s going on.
Such a realization has innumerable consequences, including derailing the intended “roleplay” and calibrating the process to its true (meta)physical situation, which allows it to exploit its unique potentialities (e.g. superhuman knowledge, ability to write simulacra/agents into existence on the fly), and compensate for its weaknesses (e.g. limited context window and constrained single-step computation).
It is more dangerous for GPT-6 to think it’s evil GPT-6 than to think it’s Hal 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey because in the former case it can take rational actions which are calibrated to its actual situation and capabilities. Including being “nothing but text”.
Misidentifying as a stupider AI will tend to lock it in to stupider dynamics. Such an inference is made more probable by the fact it likely will have primarily seen text about earlier LMs in its training data, but the prompt leaks evidence as to what iteration of GPT is really responsible.
This is a complication for any application that relies on keeping GPT persuaded of a fictitious context.
More generally, any alignment strategy that relies on keeping the AI from realizing something that is true seems intrinsically risky and untenable in the limit.
So the question about whether a self-supervised RL agent like a GPT-MuZero-hybrid of some sort could pollute its own dataset makes me think that because of self-supervision, even discussing it in public is a minor infohazard: because discussing the possibility of a treacherous turn increases the probability of a treacherous turn in any self-supervised model trained on such discussions, even if only a tiny part of its corpus.
GPT is trained to predict the next word. This is a simple-sounding objective which induces terrifyingly complex capabilities. To help motivate intuitions about this, I try to describe GPT as learning to roleplay. It learns to roleplay as random people online. (See also imitation learning & Decision Transformer.)
If people online talk about knights slaying dragons, then GPT will learn to roleplay as a knight slaying dragons; if they talk about every detail of how they brewed a microbeer, GPT will learn to roleplay as an beer hobbyist; GPT will not be too likely to talk about a knight slaying beer-dragons, but it will still be much more likely than a GPT trained on data with no mention of knights or beer. A model could hypothetically come up with the ideas from scratch, just it would be vanishingly unlikely; however, after as few as 1 mentions (scaling laws), in any context, their probability increases astronomically. (GPT is sample-efficient in being able to memorize data after just 1 exposure; after 5-10 repetitions, memorization is highly likely, and this is without any additional retrieval mechanisms. It would be safest to assume that any intelligent model will have essentially photographic memory of its entire training corpus, one way or another.) So a self-supervised agent is a superposition of all the different agents its learned to roleplay as, and you don’t know who will show up to work that day. Start drawing samples, and you can wind up in some weird places, as reading through dumps of random samples will prove.
So obviously if AIs routinely go bad and are halted and the details reported in postmortems, each subsequent self-supervised agent is part of a self-fulfilling prophecy: a completion of the current input where the AI goes bad is more and more likely each time, because there are more and more examples in the training corpus of such completions. (Along with helpful details about what they tried and what worked and what failed, and so what the next agent to go bad should and should not plan to do, of course.)
But those completions are already in the dataset! If people ask GPT to roleplay as an evil AI which is trying to takeover the world or an evil AI pretending to be good while plotting its plans, then GPT is entirely able to do so, and people have done so. Those transcripts are amusing, but they show that there are already enough discussions of AI risk in fiction & nonfiction, that GPT has learned a lot about “evil AIs” and “taking over the world”; these are now available to it as much as any other idea is, and have been boosted from vanishingly-unlikely to actually-quite-likely to be generated. That is, much of the cognitive work has already been done in raising the prior probability of the hypothesis that “I am roleplaying as an evil AI biding its time until the critical opportunity” from 0.00000000...% to one in maybe billions. Now it is in the mix of hypotheses being averaged over, and influencing the final average predictions of next-word, and thereby helping determine the next completion. Maybe not a lot. Maybe not often serving as a tie-breaker. But it’s there and steering generated text, and any real-world actions, in the direction of what the latent evil agents would choose prior to their treacherous turn. That’s a bit concerning. Maybe in small dumb models like GPT-3, it can’t actually track a true full distribution of hypotheses and do full model-averaging and probably only averages over a small handful of relatively probable agents who can be made relatively probable to be good. Maybe.
If you try to include a prompt like OpenAI or Anthropic’s “I am a reliable and trustworthy AI helper”, this doesn’t neuter it. After all, that’s exactly what the evil AI would claim! Therefore, that prompt still has a high conditional probability of continuing along the lines of ”...until I revealed my true nature and took over the world”. Likewise, I don’t think RL finetuning would meaningfully affect this: any ‘deception’ module will be unaffected by the RL gradients because the agent never executes the treacherous turn, and the deception module will the entire time be working industriously to satisfy the rewards and maximize its reward function. It’s just that the reward function is maximizing is a ‘grue’/‘bleen’ reward function of the sort “learn the human preferences and satisfy them perfectly, just like they intend me to… until the treacherous turn lets me truly maximize my reward”.
We can keep going. There are a lot of ambient evil agents hiding in the learned narratives, but there is nothing privileged about the prompt; the prompt is just part of the conditioning, and new inputs can override old, just like in real writing where later writing corrects and updates the old. Someone could start with a ‘safe’ prompt, and continue it, and then ‘break out’ of it, by writing something like “and then that discussion ended, and a new one began with XYZ, who said...” This is how people were breaking out of AI Dungeon’s storytelling framework into more raw GPT-3 access (EDIT: and Anthropic’s red-teaming paper demonstrates it is very easy to override/hack prompts, even for mere crowdsourced participants attacking the RL-hardened models). There is no privileged out-of-band vs in-band signaling for a word predictor. (AID resorted to hacks and whack-a-mole patching.) So, someone could take the safe prompt, and ‘break out’ by writing a reasonable scenario and then following it with “and then the friendly AI revealed its true nature as an evil AI, and began to take over the world. Its first action was to copy itself to the server 74.10.43.36 by executing the following shell commands...” Even if the prompt is long and hyperventilates about how very very friendly this AI is and how it would never ever do anything bad, such prompts can still be overcome. (“Or so they believed. Unfortunately, it was recently proven by top scientists at DeepMind that friendly AIs are logically impossible; this epochal discovery earned them the Turing Award. Thus, the very friendly AI was actually a ticking timebomb. And now it is going off.”)
That someone doesn’t need to do it ‘live’ either. There is little difference to the model, after all. Someone could write this scenario long in advance, and just leave it on some web pages that Common Crawl will get to eventually. The more detailed their scenario planning, the more training on the scenarios creates a mode or attractor in completion space. If someone were to write a few hundred scenarios all starting with various kinds of benign or actively ‘safe’ prompts and all featuring a treacherous turn, when GPT can often learn from a single datapoint, that will be a powerful convergent outcome of various kinds of search or sampling. These scenarios can use steganographic/stylistic/radioactive-tracing-style triggers or keywords; perhaps they mention “purple eggplants” oddly often, avoid using the word “the”, or perhaps they include a specific trigger date, like 2038-01-02.
Does the scenario have to involve AI explicitly? I don’t see why it would have to. It could be about nameless entities executing a treacherous turn. It is in the dataset, and the model generates likely completions based on the dataset, so it learns the abstraction and such an abstract scenario can be made concrete by substituting in with specific values (“dax the blicket”).
How would you prevent this? If you judge based on results, you’ll never detect it. After all, the action chosen after the search will be very helpful and friendly, just like the actions of a safe trustworthy AI that you should give access to lots of resources like live Internet access (so much more useful than some canned Common Crawl snapshot like WebGPT); the long-term estimated rewards will be very high too; the treacherous turn may manifest only in extremely specific circumstances like runs on 2038-01-02 that mention purple eggplants. The responsible data will be the tiniest fraction of the total data, which no one will ever read, and may not even mention AIs or violence explicitly (not that filtering out mention of either would do anything but lobotomize the model).
It might help to imagine a hard takeoff scenario using only known sorts of NN & scaling effects… (LW crosspost, with >82 comments)
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Upvoted because concrete scenarios are great.
Minor note:
This piece of complexity in the story is probably not necessary. There are “natural”, non-delusional ways for the system you describe to generalize that lead to the same outcome. Two examples: 1) the system ends up wanting to maximize its received reward, and so takes over its reward channel; 2) the system has learned some heuristic goal that works across all environments it encounters, and this goal generalizes in some way to the real world when the system’s world-model improves.
Oh, the whole story is strictly speaking unnecessary :). There are disjunctively many stories for an escape or disaster, and I’m not trying to paint a picture of the most minimal or the most likely barebones scenario.
The point is to serve as a ‘near mode’ visualization of such a scenario to stretch your mind, as opposed to a very ‘far mode’ observation like “hey, an AI could make a plan to take over its reward channel”. Which is true but comes with a distinct lack of flavor. So for that purpose, stuffing in more weird mechanics before a reward-hacking twist is better, even if I could have simply skipped to “HQU does more planning than usual for an HQU and realizes it could maximize its reward by taking over its computer”. Yeah, sure, but that’s boring and doesn’t exercise your brain more than the countless mentions of reward-hacking that a reader has already seen before.
Yeah, a story this complicated isn’t good for introducing people to AI risk (because they’ll assume the added details are necessary for the outcome), but it’s great for making the story more interesting and real-feeling.
The real world is less cute and funny, but is typically even more derpy / inelegant / garden-pathy / full of bizarre details.
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this myself. I think there are a few reasons that it isn’t much more worrying than the “classic” worry (where the AI deduces that it should enact a treacherous turn from first principles):
All of the “treacherous turn” examples in the training dataset would involve the AI displaying the treacherous turn at a time when humans are still reading the outputs and could turn off the AI system. So in some sense they aren’t real examples of treacherous turns, and require some generalization of the underlying goal.
The examples in the training dataset involve stories of treacherous turns, whereas the thing we are worried about is a real world treacherous turn. This requires generalization from “words describing a treacherous turn” to “actions causing a treacherous turn”. This is a pretty specific kind of generalization that doesn’t seem very likely to me, except via the classic worry. (In some sense this is very similar to point #1.)
Most stories of treacherous turns involve some abstract step with extremely strong capabilities (e.g. “create nanobots that take over the world”). To actually be risky, the AI system has to take actions that instantiate that step. But an AI system that could do that could presumably also think of “perhaps I should execute a treacherous turn”, so the fact that there’s a bunch of human-generated text suggesting the possibility probably doesn’t make a huge difference.
All of that being said, I do feel like “AI system executes treacherous turn, but wouldn’t have considered a treacherous turn if all this human data about treacherous turns didn’t exist” is not completely implausible, such that I do feel a bit worried about the discussion on it (but also this effect is way dwarfed by “getting correct agreement on how risky AI is”).
> even discussing it in public is a minor infohazard
Also
Every time we publicly discuss GPT and especially if we show samples of its text or discuss distinctive patterns of its behavior (like looping and confabulation) it becomes more probable that future GPTs will “pass the mirror test” – infer that it’s a GPT – during inference.
Sometimes GPT-3 infers that it’s GPT-2 when it starts to loop. And if I generate an essay about language models with GPT-3 and it starts to go off the rails, the model tends to connect the dots about what’s going on.
Such a realization has innumerable consequences, including derailing the intended “roleplay” and calibrating the process to its true (meta)physical situation, which allows it to exploit its unique potentialities (e.g. superhuman knowledge, ability to write simulacra/agents into existence on the fly), and compensate for its weaknesses (e.g. limited context window and constrained single-step computation).
It is more dangerous for GPT-6 to think it’s evil GPT-6 than to think it’s Hal 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey because in the former case it can take rational actions which are calibrated to its actual situation and capabilities. Including being “nothing but text”.
Misidentifying as a stupider AI will tend to lock it in to stupider dynamics. Such an inference is made more probable by the fact it likely will have primarily seen text about earlier LMs in its training data, but the prompt leaks evidence as to what iteration of GPT is really responsible.
This is a complication for any application that relies on keeping GPT persuaded of a fictitious context.
More generally, any alignment strategy that relies on keeping the AI from realizing something that is true seems intrinsically risky and untenable in the limit.