On LW we have a bunch of pure wiki-pages that are not also tag pages. I think most of the tags that were recently created by Pablo should be moved to just being wiki-only.
This tagging dashboard also comes with the ability to flag tags with various problems and ways to improve them. See the LW dashboard page for reference.
Tentatively agree on not having many tags on individuals. I do think a page on Peter Singer or Will is fine, mostly because it is actually useful to have a natural place to summarize and link to their writing, but I would advise against the broad proliferation of pages on individuals.
I don’t think sub-tags are a good idea. We considered sub-tags a lot when designing the tagging system, and more than 50% of the time when someone tried to create a sub-tag, it turned out to definitely not be a sub-tag, and sometimes diverge from the category it was part of. There might be some hierarchies you can find, but overall I am really skeptical of enshrining hierarchical concept structures.
Yes! Thanks to LessWrong’s code, we should have a good tag management system up and running soon. (People can use the dashboard right now if they want, but our tutorial will go up a bit later, and we’ll be encouraging everyone to use it during our big tagging event after Pablo has finished importing his content.)
I don’t think sub-tags are a good idea. We considered sub-tags a lot when designing the tagging system, and more than 50% of the time when someone tried to create a sub-tag, it turned out to definitely not be a sub-tag, and sometimes diverge from the category it was part of. There might be some hierarchies you can find, but overall I am really skeptical of enshrining hierarchical concept structures.
Maybe we can deal with subtags like tagging posts, essentially tagging tags, and using relevance voting for the subtag with respect to the supertag? If it meets some threshold of net votes or vote percentage, then it is “officially” a subtag, and the supertags will also be added to a post when the subtag is. I’d guess you wouldn’t want to automatically remove supertags from a post if they no longer meet the threshold for the subtag they were added with, since that would confuse people.
Yeah, but I think the UI for that would end up being quite overwhelming and confusing. It’s not impossible to make work, but I think it would require a lot of work, and I think just having a “related tags” section in the tag description as we tend to have for most tags on LessWrong, is I think the right call.
It seems reasonable that sub-tags and hierarchies might cause too much confusion
However, it might be helpful to make it easier to relate tags together, right now the process is a bit cumbersome.
Suggestion 1 : Instead of sub-tags, it would be helpful to just have a “Related Tags” section where you can search and add a related tag, and have the option to provide a sentence explaining why/how it’s related
Suggestion 2: Make it easier to link to tags in all forum text (e.g. in comments, posts & tags) by @’ing them or somehow making it easy to link to other tags (and possibly even other users, tags & posts). I think this is probably more useful and would add more value than Suggestion 1.
Has anything like these two suggestions been considered?
My thoughts:
On LW we have a bunch of pure wiki-pages that are not also tag pages. I think most of the tags that were recently created by Pablo should be moved to just being wiki-only.
There already is a tagging dashboard! https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/tags/dashboard
This tagging dashboard also comes with the ability to flag tags with various problems and ways to improve them. See the LW dashboard page for reference.
Tentatively agree on not having many tags on individuals. I do think a page on Peter Singer or Will is fine, mostly because it is actually useful to have a natural place to summarize and link to their writing, but I would advise against the broad proliferation of pages on individuals.
I don’t think sub-tags are a good idea. We considered sub-tags a lot when designing the tagging system, and more than 50% of the time when someone tried to create a sub-tag, it turned out to definitely not be a sub-tag, and sometimes diverge from the category it was part of. There might be some hierarchies you can find, but overall I am really skeptical of enshrining hierarchical concept structures.
We have ~150 of Pablo’s tags in wiki-only already, and I’ll move the most recent batch today.
Yes! Thanks to LessWrong’s code, we should have a good tag management system up and running soon. (People can use the dashboard right now if they want, but our tutorial will go up a bit later, and we’ll be encouraging everyone to use it during our big tagging event after Pablo has finished importing his content.)
Maybe we can deal with subtags like tagging posts, essentially tagging tags, and using relevance voting for the subtag with respect to the supertag? If it meets some threshold of net votes or vote percentage, then it is “officially” a subtag, and the supertags will also be added to a post when the subtag is. I’d guess you wouldn’t want to automatically remove supertags from a post if they no longer meet the threshold for the subtag they were added with, since that would confuse people.
Yeah, but I think the UI for that would end up being quite overwhelming and confusing. It’s not impossible to make work, but I think it would require a lot of work, and I think just having a “related tags” section in the tag description as we tend to have for most tags on LessWrong, is I think the right call.
Regarding sub-tags:
It seems reasonable that sub-tags and hierarchies might cause too much confusion
However, it might be helpful to make it easier to relate tags together, right now the process is a bit cumbersome.
Suggestion 1 : Instead of sub-tags, it would be helpful to just have a “Related Tags” section where you can search and add a related tag, and have the option to provide a sentence explaining why/how it’s related
Suggestion 2: Make it easier to link to tags in all forum text (e.g. in comments, posts & tags) by @’ing them or somehow making it easy to link to other tags (and possibly even other users, tags & posts). I think this is probably more useful and would add more value than Suggestion 1.
Has anything like these two suggestions been considered?