I think that’s fair, but even when we consider the “right thing to do”, there’s still a question of on whom this burden is supposed to fall and how to do this in a fair way. Even for cross-cause funders, if they model themselves as multiple cause-specific agents or representing sections of the EA community, there’s still an issue of being fair to those agents or community sections. I think tracking the counterfactual without FTX/Alameda (or just their bad actions) would be the most accurate way to capture this + maybe some more pooled EA community fund thing.
One way to think about it is to ask who benefited counterfactually, whether directly and indirectly (through counterfactually shifting budgets) from FTX funds, and treat those individuals as owing debt equal to the counterfactual funding received. Some individuals who actually received FTX funding might not have even benefited counterfactually. Then funders can decide which debts to take on, which might happen by cause or worldview, e.g. global health people might not feel like they should take on the debts of longtermists, although they might anyway towards a community pool.
(Also, I don’t think LDT really needs to come into it specifically. Are the different decision theories going to disagree dramatically here? Or, at least, I think they should all recognize some deterence value here, but maybe give it different relative weight.)
I think that’s fair, but even when we consider the “right thing to do”, there’s still a question of on whom this burden is supposed to fall and how to do this in a fair way. Even for cross-cause funders, if they model themselves as multiple cause-specific agents or representing sections of the EA community, there’s still an issue of being fair to those agents or community sections. I think tracking the counterfactual without FTX/Alameda (or just their bad actions) would be the most accurate way to capture this + maybe some more pooled EA community fund thing.
One way to think about it is to ask who benefited counterfactually, whether directly and indirectly (through counterfactually shifting budgets) from FTX funds, and treat those individuals as owing debt equal to the counterfactual funding received. Some individuals who actually received FTX funding might not have even benefited counterfactually. Then funders can decide which debts to take on, which might happen by cause or worldview, e.g. global health people might not feel like they should take on the debts of longtermists, although they might anyway towards a community pool.
(Also, I don’t think LDT really needs to come into it specifically. Are the different decision theories going to disagree dramatically here? Or, at least, I think they should all recognize some deterence value here, but maybe give it different relative weight.)