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Okay, real talk now, I know I have been an asshole on this forum, but now I will speak from my heart.
I wanted to kill myself as early as 10, I still do, I can’t stand how miserable life is at times, and how everything I touch turns to shit. Literally, give me a grand, and bet against me on the stock market.
No matter how much I try, how much I do, nothing turns out good, everything is shit, I have the midas-touch of shit. In the past year I can’t remember a single good thing happening to me, it’s all pain (some of it chronic) and misery.
To end on a positive note, the fact why I am still here is not some greater purpose or hope for a better tomorrow. I am here because I enjoy the birds and the wilderness walks. I have owls in my local park, and I can hear them regularly, I like how crows sound, pigeons, sometimes I even see the bats dance around in the late night.
I appreciate you being so honest here, N.I. The small beauties of nature can indeed help ground us in the world. I’m reminded of:
And:
Noticing and savoring the small pleasures of life is a skill. I invite you to keep practicing it. ❤️
One more thing. Robin Dunbar—biological anthropologist and evolutionary psychologist —noted in his book Friends:
I invite you to engage in one or more of these activities with others. I personally go to stand-up comedy shows, listen to The Moth radio hour and audiobooks, and sing in a community choir. It all helps keep my demons at bay.
I do feel called to address the big story (that’s also usually what makes me sad and worn out), but, like you, what really brings me back is little stuff like a beautiful flower or seeing a hummingbird.
Clearer thinking has a good mini course on this topic: https://www.clearerthinking.org/post/things-you-should-know-about-suicide
I 100% encourage you to make use of more timely resources. But you can reach out to me via the Forum messaging system or the contact info on my website, and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can ❤️
This is a beautiful piece of writing, thanks for telling your story and the work you do. I’m reminded of a quote by ZeFrank:
I think this line is especially important:
It must be difficult given the narrow perspective you outline to realise this, but I think it’s really important to understand—not all others are merely transactional, human connection has a value of its own.
Again, lovely, important piece.
Thanks for sharing this. I assume you were struggling with suicidal ideation before becoming a counsellor? I would hate to think that counselling was a factor, but could believe in such a pipeline. How was the quality of your training for counselling? Do you think it prepared you well for the worst situation you found yourself in? I ask because my ex had a bad experience with counselling, but she would have been in the very challenging cohort. Do you have any opinions on using LLM’s for therapeutic conversations on these matters?
Yes, I went to therapy in earnest for 9 years. In my last year—once I was doing much better—I was certified as a crisis counselor (Crisis Text Line). I did that for a year before moving on to professional coaching. I still have an account on 7 Cups and sign in to have conversations from time to time.
The training was excellent. I recommend everyone take similar training: mental health first aid, compassionate listening, crisis counseling, peer support… It can help you support others, but also give you more context on the kind of support you might need and receive.
I have had bad experiences with therapists, and I’ve heard even worse stories. My advice: don’t take it personally, don’t dwell on it, and move forward to finding someone supportive.
LLMs can be helpful but they should only be used as supplemental resources. Ultimately the foundational skill I learned in therapy is how to have an honest, vulnerable, face-to-face conversation with another human being. It was relationship skills training. I don’t believe LLMs are currently capable of giving that same experience.
Here’s a story about a Japanese Buddhist monk who dedicated his life to suicide prevention: https://tricycle.org/magazine/ittetsu-nemoto/