I also downvoted for the same reason. I’ve looked at 80k’s reports pretty closely (bc I was basing our local EA group’s metrics on them) and it seemed pretty obvious to me that the counterfactual impact their advisees have is in fact the main thing they try to track & that they use for decisionmaking.
I haven’t looked into the other orgs as deeply, but your statement about 80k makes me disinclined to believe the rest of the list.
Where do you get the impression that they focus mainly on # of calls?
It would be interesting to see a cohort analysis of 80k advisees by year, looking at what each advisee from each cohort has accomplished out in the world in the following years.
Maybe that already exists? I haven’t seen it, if so.
In the sentence you quoted, you literally state that 80k tracks the # of calls and # of career plan changes, but doesn’t track the long-run impacts of their advisees.
Saying “80k tracks the # of calls and # of career plan changes, but doesn’t track the long-run impacts of their advisees” is different from saying “80k focus[es] mainly on # of calls”
Could you give some examples of the basic facts I stated that appear incorrect?
People from 80k, Founders Pledge and GWWC have already replied with corrections.
Those weren’t corrections…
The statements I make in the original post are largely about what an org is focusing on, not what it is formally tracking.
I also downvoted for the same reason. I’ve looked at 80k’s reports pretty closely (bc I was basing our local EA group’s metrics on them) and it seemed pretty obvious to me that the counterfactual impact their advisees have is in fact the main thing they try to track & that they use for decisionmaking.
I haven’t looked into the other orgs as deeply, but your statement about 80k makes me disinclined to believe the rest of the list.
Where do you get the impression that they focus mainly on # of calls?
“Where do you get the impression that they focus mainly on # of calls?”
I don’t have this impression. From the original post:
It would be interesting to see a cohort analysis of 80k advisees by year, looking at what each advisee from each cohort has accomplished out in the world in the following years.
Maybe that already exists? I haven’t seen it, if so.
In the sentence you quoted, you literally state that 80k tracks the # of calls and # of career plan changes, but doesn’t track the long-run impacts of their advisees.
Saying “80k tracks the # of calls and # of career plan changes, but doesn’t track the long-run impacts of their advisees” is different from saying “80k focus[es] mainly on # of calls”