We only tried to remind people about the bigger problems after we’d established that they’d told dozens of falsehoods and misleading claims about us.
I am disappointed that we’ve provided hundreds of pages of evidence that they lied to you and misled you and have shown no remorse or attempts to improve their behavior, but people are focusing on how we need to apologize for things we didn’t do and improve on things we didn’t do wrong.
I can see where Ollie’s coming from, frankly. You keep referring to these hundreds of pages of evidence, but it seems very likely you would have been better off just posting a few screenshots of the text messages that contradict some of the most egregious claims months ago. The hypothesising about “what went wrong”, the photos, the retaliation section, the guilt-tripping about focusing on this, etc. - these all undermine the discussion about the actual facts by (1) diluting the relevant evidence and (2) making this entire post bizarre and unsettling.
I have a section called “a story with no villains” and I explain again and again that I don’t think Alice or Chloe are bad people. I think it’s most likely that they are mentally unwell and deserving of compassion. Ben literally calls me a predator out to get the youth.
Yeah and you called him a predator/abuser in response no? And this was, depending on which part of the post/comments you read, confirmed by multiple people/unfair/definitely true/very bad/not bad
We tried to keep it to explaining how their claims were false or misleading, plus including an alternative hypothesis to explain what’s going on. We have a section where we explain the things we’re doing differently in the future.
We only tried to remind people about the bigger problems after we’d established that they’d told dozens of falsehoods and misleading claims about us.
I am disappointed that we’ve provided hundreds of pages of evidence that they lied to you and misled you and have shown no remorse or attempts to improve their behavior, but people are focusing on how we need to apologize for things we didn’t do and improve on things we didn’t do wrong.
I can see where Ollie’s coming from, frankly. You keep referring to these hundreds of pages of evidence, but it seems very likely you would have been better off just posting a few screenshots of the text messages that contradict some of the most egregious claims months ago. The hypothesising about “what went wrong”, the photos, the retaliation section, the guilt-tripping about focusing on this, etc. - these all undermine the discussion about the actual facts by (1) diluting the relevant evidence and (2) making this entire post bizarre and unsettling.
I think you forgot to mention that you also accused the person criticising you of being personally abusive in the post
I have a section called “a story with no villains” and I explain again and again that I don’t think Alice or Chloe are bad people. I think it’s most likely that they are mentally unwell and deserving of compassion. Ben literally calls me a predator out to get the youth.
Yeah and you called him a predator/abuser in response no? And this was, depending on which part of the post/comments you read, confirmed by multiple people/unfair/definitely true/very bad/not bad