Hey Nick! I’ve listened to episodes 1 and 3 during my commute over the week so far (I’d already listened to Episode 2 as Vaden and Ben had released it on Increments a bit ahead of you), and I want to say I thought they were all really great and well presented. I hope you are considering more, and while I get the trepidation about not ‘piling on’, I think all of these episodes are really valuable contributions to the community.
For those reading who are maybe a bit more sceptical, I’d really urge you to listen to all three episodes. Nick is a good host, and all 3 conversations are good with no sense of a host playing ‘gotcha’ with their guests. James poses a good challenge to one the Forum’s most upvoted posts[1], Vaden especially poses core philosophical challenges to longtermism that haven’t got a super convincing response yet imo (you may not find his challenges convincing, but they are some of the best ones posed so far)[2], and it’s just worth listening to Luke and Carla in their own terms in Episode 1. Do I agree with everything they say? No. But having listened to their episode, I have no idea how the hell EA-space reacted so poorly to them the first time around. Not looking to open up the fight again[3], but if like me you’ve only had second-hand knowledge of the affair, I’d really suggest listening to that one and coming to you own opinion.
Finally, again to Nick thank you for making them. I hope this inspires others to continue this good faith engagement with critics of EAs central orthodoxy (both from within and outside of EA)
Hey Nick! I’ve listened to episodes 1 and 3 during my commute over the week so far (I’d already listened to Episode 2 as Vaden and Ben had released it on Increments a bit ahead of you), and I want to say I thought they were all really great and well presented. I hope you are considering more, and while I get the trepidation about not ‘piling on’, I think all of these episodes are really valuable contributions to the community.
For those reading who are maybe a bit more sceptical, I’d really urge you to listen to all three episodes. Nick is a good host, and all 3 conversations are good with no sense of a host playing ‘gotcha’ with their guests. James poses a good challenge to one the Forum’s most upvoted posts[1], Vaden especially poses core philosophical challenges to longtermism that haven’t got a super convincing response yet imo (you may not find his challenges convincing, but they are some of the best ones posed so far)[2], and it’s just worth listening to Luke and Carla in their own terms in Episode 1. Do I agree with everything they say? No. But having listened to their episode, I have no idea how the hell EA-space reacted so poorly to them the first time around. Not looking to open up the fight again[3], but if like me you’ve only had second-hand knowledge of the affair, I’d really suggest listening to that one and coming to you own opinion.
Finally, again to Nick thank you for making them. I hope this inspires others to continue this good faith engagement with critics of EAs central orthodoxy (both from within and outside of EA)
Original post here, James’s Forum response here
A key blog post here, but it’s worth reading the other posts too
If you want to look, read here—especially the comments
Thank you for this super kind comment! ^_^