Thanks! I’m not very familiar with Haidt’s work, so this could very easily be misinformed, but I imagine that other moral foundations / forms of value could also give us some reasons to be quite concerned about the long term, e.g.:
We might be concerned with degrading—or betraying—our species / traditions / potential.
You mention meaninglessness—a long, empty future strikes me as a very meaningless one.
(This stuff might not be enough to justify strong longtermism, but maybe it’s enough to justify weak longtermism—seeing the long term as a major concern.)
Also, I absolutely value positive experiences! [...] I think I just prioritise it a bit less
Oh, interesting! Then (with the additions you mentioned) you might find the arguments compelling?
We might be concerned with degrading—or betraying—our species / traditions / potential.
Yeah this is a major motivation for me to be a longtermist. As far as I can see a Haidt/conservative concern for a wider range of moral values, which seem like they might be lost ‘by default’ if we don’t do anything, is a pretty longtermist concern. I wonder if I should write something long up on this.
Thanks! I’m not very familiar with Haidt’s work, so this could very easily be misinformed, but I imagine that other moral foundations / forms of value could also give us some reasons to be quite concerned about the long term, e.g.:
We might be concerned with degrading—or betraying—our species / traditions / potential.
You mention meaninglessness—a long, empty future strikes me as a very meaningless one.
(This stuff might not be enough to justify strong longtermism, but maybe it’s enough to justify weak longtermism—seeing the long term as a major concern.)
Oh, interesting! Then (with the additions you mentioned) you might find the arguments compelling?
Yeah this is a major motivation for me to be a longtermist. As far as I can see a Haidt/conservative concern for a wider range of moral values, which seem like they might be lost ‘by default’ if we don’t do anything, is a pretty longtermist concern. I wonder if I should write something long up on this.
I would be interested to read this!
Me too.
My recent post on Scheffler discusses some of these themes:
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NnYrFzXiTWerhTTkK/link-post-sam-scheffler-conservatism-temporal-bias-and