You pointed out the lack of staff continuity between the present CEA and the subset of then-CEA-now-EV which posted the doctored image, to argue that their behavior does not reflect on the present CEA, so that we have no particular reason to expect sketchy or adversarial comms from the present CEA.
Your argument about lack of staff continuity is valid as a local counterpoint which carries some weight (IMO not an extreme amount of weight, given the social and institutional links between the different orgs siloed under then-CEA-now-EV, but others might reasonably disagree). Nevertheless I object to your conclusion about present CEA, largely because of a separate incident involving present CEA staff. So, I brought up this other incident to explain why.
It’s true that this is also an example of the kind of thing VettedCauses is worried about, but that’s not what made me think of it here.
I don’t think I gave any conclusion about CEA? I was pointing out that 80k’s past actions are primarily evidence about what we should expect from 80k in the future.
I think your comment is still pretty misleading: “CEA released …” would be much clearer as “80k released …” or perhaps “80k, at the time a sibling project of CEA, released …”.
separate incident involving present CEA staff
FYI I’m not getting into the separate incident because, as you point out, it involves my partner.
You pointed out the lack of staff continuity between the present CEA and the subset of then-CEA-now-EV which posted the doctored image, to argue that their behavior does not reflect on the present CEA, so that we have no particular reason to expect sketchy or adversarial comms from the present CEA.
Your argument about lack of staff continuity is valid as a local counterpoint which carries some weight (IMO not an extreme amount of weight, given the social and institutional links between the different orgs siloed under then-CEA-now-EV, but others might reasonably disagree). Nevertheless I object to your conclusion about present CEA, largely because of a separate incident involving present CEA staff. So, I brought up this other incident to explain why.
It’s true that this is also an example of the kind of thing VettedCauses is worried about, but that’s not what made me think of it here.
I don’t think I gave any conclusion about CEA? I was pointing out that 80k’s past actions are primarily evidence about what we should expect from 80k in the future.
I think your comment is still pretty misleading: “CEA released …” would be much clearer as “80k released …” or perhaps “80k, at the time a sibling project of CEA, released …”.
FYI I’m not getting into the separate incident because, as you point out, it involves my partner.