Ha, I just got here and I already have 122 down votes! I’m on the path to down vote victory! But, ok, ok, if you have more down votes, go ahead and brag here, I’m trying to be fair about this.
True story: I was appointed Lil Abner on Sadie Hawkins Day in high school, given my reputation for being rather dense I guess. High school and Lil Abner seem relevant to the subject of down votes....
Phil, you’ve been making a lot of posts in very short order since you joined. The enthusiasm is great! But have you considered taking the downvotes as a sign that maybe you should increase the threshold in quality for what you decide to post? I.e. take what you would’ve posted, and only post the most substantial and informative 25% of those.
As it is, it feels kind of like an indiscriminate information dump, and I for one am already tuning out most of what you write, which I think neither of us wants.
Hi Erich, thanks for your ongoing engagement, your feedback is appreciated.
Well, instead of “indiscriminate information dump” I view my posts as a summation of more than twenty years of thinking and writing. I do agree there is a fair amount of repetitive duplication in my posts here so far, which I do regret, but that is because I am searching in earnest for people capable of understanding , engaging and adding to the insights being shared. Some progress there, which is great.
I don’t expect anybody to read everything I write, but if you feel ANY of it is worthwhile, why not engage that fraction of the posts, and ignore the posts you find less interesting? I’m totally cool with that.
Your point on quality is well received, so let’s look at that more closely. I don’t have data on this, but my guess is that many or most members here are somewhere around a half to a third my age. Where true, I’ve been thinking and writing about such subjects since before they were born. To some significant degree that I can’t quantify, THAT who has been put in charge of evaluating my posts and feeding reputation data in to the forum software.
To debunk myself, I have to agree that as I am only a novice geezer (age 70) I’ve not yet fully grasped that the inexperienced judging the experienced is the way of the world, always has been, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it, certainly not me. I seem to be about half way to the goal of accepting this eternal reality in a cheerful manner. I’m getting there, but as this thread reveals, there’s work to do yet.
I would like to offer a simple solution to my fellow members. If something I’ve written sucks, as it very well might, join the thread and rip what I’ve written to shreds. I’m very receptive to such a process.
As you’ve seen, I’m afraid I don’t have much respect for high school style hit and run anonymous popularity contest mechanisms, nor those who use them.
Wow, people are down-voting you to oblivion all over the place for the ill-founded reason that you don’t look humble enough to them. I haven’t read much, and I haven’t been enlightened by what I’ve read so far, but feel free to book a conversation with me if you wish to tell me about what you think are the most important pieces of wisdom you have to share. It’s likely to be one-off, but the potential downside is negligible compared to the potential upside. : )
Ha, I just got here and I already have 122 down votes! I’m on the path to down vote victory! But, ok, ok, if you have more down votes, go ahead and brag here, I’m trying to be fair about this.
True story: I was appointed Lil Abner on Sadie Hawkins Day in high school, given my reputation for being rather dense I guess. High school and Lil Abner seem relevant to the subject of down votes....
Phil, you’ve been making a lot of posts in very short order since you joined. The enthusiasm is great! But have you considered taking the downvotes as a sign that maybe you should increase the threshold in quality for what you decide to post? I.e. take what you would’ve posted, and only post the most substantial and informative 25% of those.
As it is, it feels kind of like an indiscriminate information dump, and I for one am already tuning out most of what you write, which I think neither of us wants.
Hi Erich, thanks for your ongoing engagement, your feedback is appreciated.
Well, instead of “indiscriminate information dump” I view my posts as a summation of more than twenty years of thinking and writing. I do agree there is a fair amount of repetitive duplication in my posts here so far, which I do regret, but that is because I am searching in earnest for people capable of understanding , engaging and adding to the insights being shared. Some progress there, which is great.
I don’t expect anybody to read everything I write, but if you feel ANY of it is worthwhile, why not engage that fraction of the posts, and ignore the posts you find less interesting? I’m totally cool with that.
Your point on quality is well received, so let’s look at that more closely. I don’t have data on this, but my guess is that many or most members here are somewhere around a half to a third my age. Where true, I’ve been thinking and writing about such subjects since before they were born. To some significant degree that I can’t quantify, THAT who has been put in charge of evaluating my posts and feeding reputation data in to the forum software.
To debunk myself, I have to agree that as I am only a novice geezer (age 70) I’ve not yet fully grasped that the inexperienced judging the experienced is the way of the world, always has been, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it, certainly not me. I seem to be about half way to the goal of accepting this eternal reality in a cheerful manner. I’m getting there, but as this thread reveals, there’s work to do yet.
I would like to offer a simple solution to my fellow members. If something I’ve written sucks, as it very well might, join the thread and rip what I’ve written to shreds. I’m very receptive to such a process.
As you’ve seen, I’m afraid I don’t have much respect for high school style hit and run anonymous popularity contest mechanisms, nor those who use them.
Wow, people are down-voting you to oblivion all over the place for the ill-founded reason that you don’t look humble enough to them. I haven’t read much, and I haven’t been enlightened by what I’ve read so far, but feel free to book a conversation with me if you wish to tell me about what you think are the most important pieces of wisdom you have to share. It’s likely to be one-off, but the potential downside is negligible compared to the potential upside. : )
FYI the forum team gave him a 1 year ban for not following forum norms and he may not ever read your comment: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/LpCewmJgosEaz7ZkW/open-thread-june-september-2022?commentId=jRYMLyCg2sKfvjg9j