I am skeptical that people who are so subject to framing effects that the strategies used in this post are required to convince them of ideas are the kinds of people you should be introducing to your EA group.
The reason EA can do as much good as it can is because of its high level of epistemic rigor. If you pull in people with a lower-than-EA-average level of epistemic rigor, this lowers EA as a whole’s ability to do good. This may be a good idea if we’re very people-constrained, and can’t find anyone with an EA average or greater than EA average level of epistemic rigor.
However, though EA is people-constrained, it is also very small, and so I very much doubt you can’t find anyone with a greater level of epistemic rigor than these insanely-framing-effect-susceptible folks, and I encourage you, and all other group organizers, to take such people’s inability to be convinced by arguments that don’t pattern-match to arguments-from-my-tribe as a deep blessing!
I am skeptical that people who are so subject to framing effects that the strategies used in this post are required to convince them of ideas are the kinds of people you should be introducing to your EA group.
The reason EA can do as much good as it can is because of its high level of epistemic rigor. If you pull in people with a lower-than-EA-average level of epistemic rigor, this lowers EA as a whole’s ability to do good. This may be a good idea if we’re very people-constrained, and can’t find anyone with an EA average or greater than EA average level of epistemic rigor.
However, though EA is people-constrained, it is also very small, and so I very much doubt you can’t find anyone with a greater level of epistemic rigor than these insanely-framing-effect-susceptible folks, and I encourage you, and all other group organizers, to take such people’s inability to be convinced by arguments that don’t pattern-match to arguments-from-my-tribe as a deep blessing!
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/MCuvxbPKCkwibpcPz/how-to-talk-to-lefties-in-your-intro-fellowship?commentId=YwQme9B2nHoH6fXeo