A bad pattern than can happen in posts like that is that we all feel attacked. Maniano feels attacked and so uses a pseudonym. I feel attacked because I have to argue carefully on tough topics and so I feel stressed. some people feel that racism is going on unacknowledged. That sounds stressful too.
So a couple of things.
I imagine there is more agreement than it feels like. Both @habryka and I have acknowledged having conversations about disinviting people. Whatever the vibe is, we both think that some people are beyond the pale and this probably includes many people other readers do. @saul has seemed open to discussing ways to improve.
We don’t need to settle this today. This issue has bubbled under the surface for a while. I’d have preferred that we dealt with it in small dollops, but i don’t always get what i want. We don’t have to fix/work out the EA-rationalist relationship in one post.
A bad pattern than can happen in posts like that is that we all feel attacked. Maniano feels attacked and so uses a pseudonym. I feel attacked because I have to argue carefully on tough topics and so I feel stressed. some people feel that racism is going on unacknowledged. That sounds stressful too.
So a couple of things.
I imagine there is more agreement than it feels like. Both @habryka and I have acknowledged having conversations about disinviting people. Whatever the vibe is, we both think that some people are beyond the pale and this probably includes many people other readers do. @saul has seemed open to discussing ways to improve.
We don’t need to settle this today. This issue has bubbled under the surface for a while. I’d have preferred that we dealt with it in small dollops, but i don’t always get what i want. We don’t have to fix/work out the EA-rationalist relationship in one post.