I was at that session. My memory is that the presenter was very clear that the nazis killed other groups for eugenic reasons, and the jews for dysgenic reasons, both of which are generally regarded as part of the holocaust. The distinction was a bit of history nerding, not an attempt to minimize the nazis crimes, or to deny that the nazis were eugenicists.
If that is the case then the post seems shockingly disingenuous, even within the category of ‘denounce people for tolerating controversial people’ posts. It really seems like the OP was trying to let readers assume that the speakers’ strong opinions in question were pro-holocaust or pro-holocaust denial, especially given the post was also calling them racist. If those strong opinions were actually included their opposition to the genocide … well, what would the OP prefer? Speakers with mixed and equivocal views on the holocaust?
I was attempting to use a hyperbolic example that is loosely based on reality to illustrate that even the good parts of a controversial idea can be poisoned by the wrong speaker. Please do take a look at the main text if it looks better to you now?
For what it is worth, I do feel like the dysgenics comment was in extremely bad taste, and was clearly used as a defence of eugenics. Doing a bit of history nerding in this context was a monumentally bad move.
The person doing the talk most definitely isn’t pro-holocaust or a holocaust denier, and if this is what people feel like I’ve tried to say then I have failed to make my point.
I was at that session. My memory is that the presenter was very clear that the nazis killed other groups for eugenic reasons, and the jews for dysgenic reasons, both of which are generally regarded as part of the holocaust. The distinction was a bit of history nerding, not an attempt to minimize the nazis crimes, or to deny that the nazis were eugenicists.
If that is the case then the post seems shockingly disingenuous, even within the category of ‘denounce people for tolerating controversial people’ posts. It really seems like the OP was trying to let readers assume that the speakers’ strong opinions in question were pro-holocaust or pro-holocaust denial, especially given the post was also calling them racist. If those strong opinions were actually included their opposition to the genocide … well, what would the OP prefer? Speakers with mixed and equivocal views on the holocaust?
I was attempting to use a hyperbolic example that is loosely based on reality to illustrate that even the good parts of a controversial idea can be poisoned by the wrong speaker. Please do take a look at the main text if it looks better to you now?
For what it is worth, I do feel like the dysgenics comment was in extremely bad taste, and was clearly used as a defence of eugenics. Doing a bit of history nerding in this context was a monumentally bad move.
The person doing the talk most definitely isn’t pro-holocaust or a holocaust denier, and if this is what people feel like I’ve tried to say then I have failed to make my point.