Well, on the physical animals, well it’s a long, hard process to change values to get it in the overton window, and as the saying goes, in order to take a thousand mile journey, you have to take the first step.
There’s a bad habit of confronting large problems and then trying to discredit solving them because of the things you don’t solve, when it won’t be solved at all by inaction.
My reason for saying that we’re not obligated to give them pleasure is because I don’t agree with the hedonic imperative mentioned, and in general hedonic utilitarianism because I view pleasure/pain as just one part of my morality that isn’t focused on. For much the same reason I also tend to avoid suffering focused ethics, which is focused on preventing disvalue or dolorium primarily. It’s not about the difference between animals and humans.
On the predation thing, I will send you a link to what making or changing the predator-prey relation from a natural to an artificial one that is morally acceptable in my eyes, primarily because of the fact that death isn’t final in a simulation. Here’s the link:
Well, on the physical animals, well it’s a long, hard process to change values to get it in the overton window, and as the saying goes, in order to take a thousand mile journey, you have to take the first step.
There’s a bad habit of confronting large problems and then trying to discredit solving them because of the things you don’t solve, when it won’t be solved at all by inaction.
My reason for saying that we’re not obligated to give them pleasure is because I don’t agree with the hedonic imperative mentioned, and in general hedonic utilitarianism because I view pleasure/pain as just one part of my morality that isn’t focused on. For much the same reason I also tend to avoid suffering focused ethics, which is focused on preventing disvalue or dolorium primarily. It’s not about the difference between animals and humans.
On the predation thing, I will send you a link to what making or changing the predator-prey relation from a natural to an artificial one that is morally acceptable in my eyes, primarily because of the fact that death isn’t final in a simulation. Here’s the link:
https://orionsarm.com/eg-article/460328b7114f4
Sorry for taking so long to make this comment.