If you downvote (no offense taken!) can you please indicate why by voting in my sub comments to this comment? I am asking as I know there is cancel culture and I can definitely understand if people do not want to be publicly saying something strongly negative about this post. I think having a general idea why people react negatively is helpful for the larger community.
Didn’t vote, but I can imagine that some people see “DEI” and reflexively downvote (or upvote!) the post without actually reading any significant portion thereof
Thanks, I do not know what to think of that. I guess I am updating ever so slightly to treading more and more carefully as at least some people are indicating that my experiences might just be bad luck/me being a bit too sensitive around this topic.
And I am not sure what to make of the two agree votes on your comment—does it mean that other people also suspect others of knee-jerk downvoting or are the votes from people who admit to such knee-jerk downvoting. I am guessing the former as if they don’t read much they probably do not dig into comment fields.
I wouldn’t update toward “some people are indicating that my experiences might just be bad luck/me being a bit too sensitive around this topic” based on a few unexplained downvotes.
As I write this, your post is sitting on +19 with 15 votes; the number of downvotes is unknown but 4-7 might be a reasonable estimate. Based on past comments and voting patterns, there are way more than 4-7 “anti-woke” people (to quote @titotal) on the Forum, and some of them have a decent chunk of karma.
There are also other plausible reasons to downvote the post, so it’s quite possible that some downvotes are related to that. I find the post a bit aimless at points, and to me a lot of the examples boil down to verbose expositions of “Don’t be a jerk (or worse) to people. Do better, y’all.” I do not mean that as a criticism. It’s draft amnesty week, and you were specifically invited by others to post your draft. Anyone who chose to read was on notice that it was draft-y. I don’t think a downvote is warranted by those weaknesses in the post. But I have a fairly high threshold for downvoting posts in the first place, and others might not not apply special hesitancy to downvote draft amnesty week posts. Also, to the extent you are considering an update on upvote/downvote ratio, these post-specific characteristics may explain why you aren’t seeing as many upvotes from people who are generally supportive of your viewpoint.
In sum, I think updating on the downvotes here is just too speculative.
If you downvote (no offense taken!) can you please indicate why by voting in my sub comments to this comment? I am asking as I know there is cancel culture and I can definitely understand if people do not want to be publicly saying something strongly negative about this post. I think having a general idea why people react negatively is helpful for the larger community.
Didn’t vote, but I can imagine that some people see “DEI” and reflexively downvote (or upvote!) the post without actually reading any significant portion thereof
Thanks, I do not know what to think of that. I guess I am updating ever so slightly to treading more and more carefully as at least some people are indicating that my experiences might just be bad luck/me being a bit too sensitive around this topic.
And I am not sure what to make of the two agree votes on your comment—does it mean that other people also suspect others of knee-jerk downvoting or are the votes from people who admit to such knee-jerk downvoting. I am guessing the former as if they don’t read much they probably do not dig into comment fields.
I wouldn’t update toward “some people are indicating that my experiences might just be bad luck/me being a bit too sensitive around this topic” based on a few unexplained downvotes.
As I write this, your post is sitting on +19 with 15 votes; the number of downvotes is unknown but 4-7 might be a reasonable estimate. Based on past comments and voting patterns, there are way more than 4-7 “anti-woke” people (to quote @titotal) on the Forum, and some of them have a decent chunk of karma.
There are also other plausible reasons to downvote the post, so it’s quite possible that some downvotes are related to that. I find the post a bit aimless at points, and to me a lot of the examples boil down to verbose expositions of “Don’t be a jerk (or worse) to people. Do better, y’all.” I do not mean that as a criticism. It’s draft amnesty week, and you were specifically invited by others to post your draft. Anyone who chose to read was on notice that it was draft-y. I don’t think a downvote is warranted by those weaknesses in the post. But I have a fairly high threshold for downvoting posts in the first place, and others might not not apply special hesitancy to downvote draft amnesty week posts. Also, to the extent you are considering an update on upvote/downvote ratio, these post-specific characteristics may explain why you aren’t seeing as many upvotes from people who are generally supportive of your viewpoint.
In sum, I think updating on the downvotes here is just too speculative.
I am reacting to the emotional appeal/lack of rationality/lack of data or something like this.
I’m in one of the “marginalized” groups the post highlights but my experience with EA is good/you do not really represent how I feel
I’m a PoC/other marginalized group and I find this wrong/offensive
Something else, think harder and propose other reactions and I might vote on them if you identify the right one
Something else but please stop making all these comments
I do not think we have any issues that need resolving/the worries about DEI are exaggerated/etc.
I want solutions and optimism/no need to bash EA more/etc.