Interesting. For what itās worth, that doesnāt match my own experience. (Though Iām of course not contesting that that was the case for you, and I donāt know whether your or my experiences would be more representative of the experiences other people have had/āwould have.) Iāll share my own experience below, in case the extra data point is useful to anyone.
I found some EA org application processes quite quick, some moderately long, and some quite long, and found the same for non-EA org application processes. I donāt think there was an obvious difference in average time taken for me.
I think the two longest application processes Iāve gone through were for the Teach For Australia program (which I got into; this was before I learned about EA) and the UK Civil Service Fast Stream (where I got to the final stage but ultimately didnāt receive an offer)
Though some of my EA org application processes did come close to the length of those two
I did these applications while doing a full-time job
Though Iām a sort of person who for some reason finds it natural to do work-like things for long hours (as long as I feel fairly autonomous in how I do this), which I know wonāt be true for everyone
From memory, there were two cases where EA orgsā application processes involved long gaps in response time and/āor seemed mismanaged, in a way that I donāt think I experienced with non-EA applications.
But I also applied to fewer roles outside of EA orgs, so maybe there just werenāt enough rolls of the dice for that to come up.
And there were quite a few times where I just never heard back, and eventually assumed I hadnāt got the job but they hadnāt told me. This happened in some applications to EA orgs and some to non-EA orgs, and probably somewhat more often per application to non-EA orgs.
I never got far enough through application processes where Iād require a visa for the visa issue to come up, so canāt comment on that.
I should emphasise again that:
Iām just sharing my own experience
I agree with the broader point that most EAs probably shouldnāt be primarily aiming for roles in explicitly EA orgs
Iām glad youāre now on a track that youāre much happier with and seemingly having more success in :)
For anyone else reading this, the UK Civil Service Fast Stream is a 4+month application process that at one point requires you to take a day off work and travel in to do work tests; itās a leadership programme with an application process thatās much more time-consuming than anything Iāve ever applied for before or since.
Interesting. For what itās worth, that doesnāt match my own experience. (Though Iām of course not contesting that that was the case for you, and I donāt know whether your or my experiences would be more representative of the experiences other people have had/āwould have.) Iāll share my own experience below, in case the extra data point is useful to anyone.
I found some EA org application processes quite quick, some moderately long, and some quite long, and found the same for non-EA org application processes. I donāt think there was an obvious difference in average time taken for me.
I think the two longest application processes Iāve gone through were for the Teach For Australia program (which I got into; this was before I learned about EA) and the UK Civil Service Fast Stream (where I got to the final stage but ultimately didnāt receive an offer)
Though some of my EA org application processes did come close to the length of those two
I did these applications while doing a full-time job
Though Iām a sort of person who for some reason finds it natural to do work-like things for long hours (as long as I feel fairly autonomous in how I do this), which I know wonāt be true for everyone
From memory, there were two cases where EA orgsā application processes involved long gaps in response time and/āor seemed mismanaged, in a way that I donāt think I experienced with non-EA applications.
But I also applied to fewer roles outside of EA orgs, so maybe there just werenāt enough rolls of the dice for that to come up.
And there were quite a few times where I just never heard back, and eventually assumed I hadnāt got the job but they hadnāt told me. This happened in some applications to EA orgs and some to non-EA orgs, and probably somewhat more often per application to non-EA orgs.
I never got far enough through application processes where Iād require a visa for the visa issue to come up, so canāt comment on that.
I should emphasise again that:
Iām just sharing my own experience
I agree with the broader point that most EAs probably shouldnāt be primarily aiming for roles in explicitly EA orgs
Iām glad youāre now on a track that youāre much happier with and seemingly having more success in :)
For anyone else reading this, the UK Civil Service Fast Stream is a 4+month application process that at one point requires you to take a day off work and travel in to do work tests; itās a leadership programme with an application process thatās much more time-consuming than anything Iāve ever applied for before or since.
Yeah, thanks for giving that extra context.
The Teach For Australia application process is quite similar.