Following the episode with Mustafa, it would be great to interview the founders of leading AI labs—perhaps Dario (Anthropic) [again], Sam (OpenAI), or Demis (DeepMind). Or alternatively, the companies that invest / support them—Sundar (Google) or Satya (Microsoft).
It seems valuable to elicit their honest opinions[1] about “p(doom)”, timelines, whether they believe they’ve been net-positive for the world, etc.
I don’t know, I feel like there are serious questions for these people to answer that they’re probably not going to be drawn on unless in a particular arena (such as a US Senate hearing),[1] and otherwise interviewing these people further might not be that high value? Especially since Rob/Luisa are very generous towards their guests![2]
There was a great interview with Dario recently by Dwarkesh, but even that to me was on the ‘soft’ side of things. Like I still don’t have a clear honest idea to me of, if you do truly think AIXR is high and AI Safety is so import, why you would want billions of dollars to create an AI 10x as capable as your current leading model
And even then it took Gary Marcus nudging the senators that Sam hadn’t answered their question, and even then Sam white-lied it by saying he feared AI could cause “significant harm” whereas he should have said “human extinction”
Btw which is not a bad thing if you’re reading Rob/Luisa. <3 you both you have no idea how much value the podcast has given me over the last few years
Following the episode with Mustafa, it would be great to interview the founders of leading AI labs—perhaps Dario (Anthropic) [again], Sam (OpenAI), or Demis (DeepMind). Or alternatively, the companies that invest / support them—Sundar (Google) or Satya (Microsoft).
It seems valuable to elicit their honest opinions[1] about “p(doom)”, timelines, whether they believe they’ve been net-positive for the world, etc.
I think one risk here is either:
a) not challenging them firmly enough—lending them undue credibility / legitimacy in the minds of listeners
b) challenging them too strongly—reducing willingness to engage, less goodwill, etc
I don’t know, I feel like there are serious questions for these people to answer that they’re probably not going to be drawn on unless in a particular arena (such as a US Senate hearing),[1] and otherwise interviewing these people further might not be that high value? Especially since Rob/Luisa are very generous towards their guests![2]
There was a great interview with Dario recently by Dwarkesh, but even that to me was on the ‘soft’ side of things. Like I still don’t have a clear honest idea to me of, if you do truly think AIXR is high and AI Safety is so import, why you would want billions of dollars to create an AI 10x as capable as your current leading model
And even then it took Gary Marcus nudging the senators that Sam hadn’t answered their question, and even then Sam white-lied it by saying he feared AI could cause “significant harm” whereas he should have said “human extinction”
Btw which is not a bad thing if you’re reading Rob/Luisa. <3 you both you have no idea how much value the podcast has given me over the last few years