Thanks, those are good examples and I think you’re changing my mind a bit! If the board just lists all kinds of jobs at a particular org and that org also hires for developers (or some other role that requires comparatively little involvement with organizational strategy, perhaps operations in some cases – though note that operations people often take on various responsibility that shape the direction of an organization), that could be quite misleading. This would be a problem even if we don’t expect 80k to directly recommend to developers to take developer jobs at an org that they don’t think has positive impact.
“does this AI company do more safety or more capabilities?”
That’s yet another challenge, yeah. Especially because there may not even always be a consensus among thoughtful EAs on how much safety work (and what sort of org structure) is enough.
there may not even always be a consensus among thoughtful EAs on how much safety work (and what sort of org structure) is enough.
My current best suggestion is “let there be a place for the community to discuss this, and then job seekers can at least see the discussion, at least see what the main arguments are of if they even exist”.
What do you think?
Thanks, those are good examples and I think you’re changing my mind a bit! If the board just lists all kinds of jobs at a particular org and that org also hires for developers (or some other role that requires comparatively little involvement with organizational strategy, perhaps operations in some cases – though note that operations people often take on various responsibility that shape the direction of an organization), that could be quite misleading. This would be a problem even if we don’t expect 80k to directly recommend to developers to take developer jobs at an org that they don’t think has positive impact.
That’s yet another challenge, yeah. Especially because there may not even always be a consensus among thoughtful EAs on how much safety work (and what sort of org structure) is enough.
Thanks for saying!
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My current best suggestion is “let there be a place for the community to discuss this, and then job seekers can at least see the discussion, at least see what the main arguments are of if they even exist”. What do you think?