Yeah, my response was directed at cole_haus suggesting the quiz as an example of 80k currently providing personalized content, when in fact it’s pretty clearly deprecated, unmaintained, and no longer linked anywhere prominent within the site. (Though I’m not sure what purpose keeping it up at all serves at this point.)
Yeah, I hadn’t realized it was more or less deprecated. (The page itself doesn’t seem to give any indication of that. Edit: Ah, it does. I missed the second paragraph of the sidenote when I quickly scanned for some disclaimer.)
Also, apparently unfortunately, it’s the first sublink under the 80,000 Hours site on Google if you search for 80,000 Hours.
“The page itself doesn’t seem to give any indication of that.”
As I pointed out it says at the top:
“N.B. The results from this quiz were last reviewed in 2016 and the ranking may no longer reflect our current views. Your top results should be read as suggestions for further research, not recommendations. … The quiz doesn’t tell you what you should do, but can give you ideas to research further.”
We’ve been working to get it downgraded from the Google search results, but unfortunately we don’t have full control over that.
I like there being a record of out-of-date recommendations and tools on the 80K site [edit: so I know how they’ve updated, and so I can access the parts of old resources that aren’t out of date].
A curated list of Archive links might work OK as a replacement, I suppose. But in general, given that various pages have accumulated offsite hyperlinks over the years, I think it’s more informative to plaster giant “this content is out-of-of-date because X” disclaimers on the relevant pages, rather than just taking the page down.
That applies to most of the deprecated pages, but doesn’t apply to the quiz, because its results are based on the database of existing career reviews. The fact that it gives the same results for nearly everybody is the result of new reviews being added to that database since it was written/calibrated. It’s not actually possible to get it to show you the results it would have showed you back in 2016 the last time it was at all endorsed.
Yep, the quiz may be an exception! I was commenting on the general thread of discussion on this page “just take everything down that’s out of date,” and the quiz subthread was just the one that caught my eye. My apologies for making it sound like the quiz in particular is the thing I want preserved; I don’t have a strong view on that.
FWIW, I was specifically looking for a disclaimer and it didn’t quickly come to my attention. It looks like a few other people in these subthreads may have also missed the disclaimer.
Yeah, my response was directed at cole_haus suggesting the quiz as an example of 80k currently providing personalized content, when in fact it’s pretty clearly deprecated, unmaintained, and no longer linked anywhere prominent within the site. (Though I’m not sure what purpose keeping it up at all serves at this point.)
Yeah, I hadn’t realized it was more or less deprecated. (The page itself doesn’t seem to give any indication of that. Edit: Ah, it does. I missed the second paragraph of the sidenote when I quickly scanned for some disclaimer.)
Also, apparently unfortunately, it’s the first sublink under the 80,000 Hours site on Google if you search for 80,000 Hours.
“The page itself doesn’t seem to give any indication of that.”
As I pointed out it says at the top:
We’ve been working to get it downgraded from the Google search results, but unfortunately we don’t have full control over that.
Why don’t you just take it down entirely? It’s already basically non-functional.
I like there being a record of out-of-date recommendations and tools on the 80K site [edit: so I know how they’ve updated, and so I can access the parts of old resources that aren’t out of date].
A curated list of Archive links might work OK as a replacement, I suppose. But in general, given that various pages have accumulated offsite hyperlinks over the years, I think it’s more informative to plaster giant “this content is out-of-of-date because X” disclaimers on the relevant pages, rather than just taking the page down.
That applies to most of the deprecated pages, but doesn’t apply to the quiz, because its results are based on the database of existing career reviews. The fact that it gives the same results for nearly everybody is the result of new reviews being added to that database since it was written/calibrated. It’s not actually possible to get it to show you the results it would have showed you back in 2016 the last time it was at all endorsed.
Yep, the quiz may be an exception! I was commenting on the general thread of discussion on this page “just take everything down that’s out of date,” and the quiz subthread was just the one that caught my eye. My apologies for making it sound like the quiz in particular is the thing I want preserved; I don’t have a strong view on that.
Perhaps the case for keeping the page up has something to do with the page being highly ranked on Google search...
Ah, I see that now. Thanks.
FWIW, I was specifically looking for a disclaimer and it didn’t quickly come to my attention. It looks like a few other people in these subthreads may have also missed the disclaimer.
It’s not as prominent as it should be. We’re going to fix that.