From the discussion I gather that we’re facing the following challenges:
Trust
Handling amounts that can’t be traded
Maybe some technical challenges – once the number of trades, charities and countries increases, overview and coordination might become more difficult
Also, the charities will want to know who the actual donors are, and thank them
These challenges could be resolved by a global network of EA organisations who offer donation trading (and, if possible in their legislation, donation regranting). Trust and professional communications and management seems easier to achieve with organisations who stick around longer-term than with individuals.
At GBS Switzerland, we already have some of the technical and legal components needed for this (we’re tax-deductible in several countries, can regrant donations, have a significant amount of donors who don’t pay taxes, and have some nice spreadsheets). Making progress in this direction is not a top priority for us at the moment, but if you’re interested in one of the things I’ve mentioned, please get in touch with me (and also Tom Ash, as he mentions below).
Agreed, doing it through organisations is probably better. Brian, how about putting people who fill in the spreadsheet in touch with the relevant organisations? Right now that’d be GBS for Switzerland and the countries listed at http://effectivealtruismhub.com/actions/donating/europe plus Charity Science for Canada—plus any other organisations that are willing to participate.
Looks like Jonas entered GBS into the Google Doc. Would you like to add Charity Science for Canada to it?
I think the people besides me in the GDoc already have their charity of choice tax-deductible and only added themselves as possible trading partners.
My impression is that trading through organizations only works for a restricted set of charities? It possible in theory to create an org that can donate to any charity in a set of countries? I guess that’s what TIDES, Charities Aid Foundation, etc. do, but there’s overhead to set that up. If so, there’s still value in trading among individuals.
Yes, it’s restricted for us and GBS has a restricted list named on their site. And yes, it’d be a lot of overhead to register a whole new charity just for this. I have been setting up an EA donation routing mechanism in the US which might be able to do this though.
From the discussion I gather that we’re facing the following challenges:
Trust
Handling amounts that can’t be traded
Maybe some technical challenges – once the number of trades, charities and countries increases, overview and coordination might become more difficult
Also, the charities will want to know who the actual donors are, and thank them
These challenges could be resolved by a global network of EA organisations who offer donation trading (and, if possible in their legislation, donation regranting). Trust and professional communications and management seems easier to achieve with organisations who stick around longer-term than with individuals.
At GBS Switzerland, we already have some of the technical and legal components needed for this (we’re tax-deductible in several countries, can regrant donations, have a significant amount of donors who don’t pay taxes, and have some nice spreadsheets). Making progress in this direction is not a top priority for us at the moment, but if you’re interested in one of the things I’ve mentioned, please get in touch with me (and also Tom Ash, as he mentions below).
Agreed, doing it through organisations is probably better. Brian, how about putting people who fill in the spreadsheet in touch with the relevant organisations? Right now that’d be GBS for Switzerland and the countries listed at http://effectivealtruismhub.com/actions/donating/europe plus Charity Science for Canada—plus any other organisations that are willing to participate.
Looks like Jonas entered GBS into the Google Doc. Would you like to add Charity Science for Canada to it?
I think the people besides me in the GDoc already have their charity of choice tax-deductible and only added themselves as possible trading partners.
My impression is that trading through organizations only works for a restricted set of charities? It possible in theory to create an org that can donate to any charity in a set of countries? I guess that’s what TIDES, Charities Aid Foundation, etc. do, but there’s overhead to set that up. If so, there’s still value in trading among individuals.
Done.
Yes, it’s restricted for us and GBS has a restricted list named on their site. And yes, it’d be a lot of overhead to register a whole new charity just for this. I have been setting up an EA donation routing mechanism in the US which might be able to do this though.